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Old April 1st, 2016, 08:57 AM
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Unhappy Work-life balance queries

In India’s private sector, the workload is high. I have heard it’s worse in countries like Japan and Korea.

Now consider a case (real or hypothetical). Suppose a person is assigned the work of four people and paid Rs 20,000/-. Let’s say that work is divided among four people and the pay is also divided by four. That would be a salary of Rs 5,000/-. Taking some other real or imaginary costs into account to reduce the amount further to Rs 4,500/-. That would be even less.

It sounds meagre but such jobs would theoretically address the issues of massive unemployment and poverty. It may help break the vicious circle of poverty leading to overpopulation (poor tend to have more children) which in turn leads to more poverty. It may also ease the pressure on workers.

But what’s the catch? What are the practical difficulties in implementing it due to which this policy is not applied? It must be too fabulous to be a solution to real world problems. Or else it might have been done long ago.

This way or that way (either way) employers give away SAME amount of money. Why then employers don’t give 4,500 or 5,000 to four different individuals instead of giving 20,000 to a single person? Just what is the reason which makes it unappealing?

Some employees may argue, “We are willing to work for longer time.” Due to what factor employers don’t reply, “Other people too need employment.”?

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Re: Work-life balance queries

Suggestion is excellent but it will not work. Why because 3 of the 4 hired will be from reserved category. Work will still be done by 1 person and he will still be overworked but with very very less pay. He will become frustrated and will overpopulate. The 3 from the reserved category will not work and sleep all day and will overpopulate. End result will be sem to sem.
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Suggestion is excellent but it will not work. Why because 3 of the 4 hired will be from reserved category. Work will still be done by 1 person and he will still be overworked but with very very less pay. He will become frustrated and will overpopulate. The 3 from the reserved category will not work and sleep all day and will overpopulate. End result will be sem to sem.
Private sector mein reservation kaha hai?
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Private sector mein reservation kaha hai?
Reservation se hi reserved candidates nahi aate
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Reservation se hi reserved candidates nahi aate
Tou kaise ate hai? Elaborate please. I don't know.
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In India’s private sector, the workload is high. I have heard it’s worse in countries like Japan and Korea.

Now consider a case (real or hypothetical). Suppose a person is assigned the work of four people and paid Rs 20,000/-. Let’s say that work is divided among four people and the pay is also divided by four. That would be a salary of Rs 5,000/-. Taking some other real or imaginary costs into account to reduce the amount further to Rs 4,500/-. That would be even less.

It sounds meagre but such jobs would theoretically address the issues of massive unemployment and poverty. It may help break the vicious circle of poverty leading to overpopulation (poor tend to have more children) which in turn leads to more poverty. It may also ease the pressure on workers.

But what’s the catch? What are the practical difficulties in implementing it due to which this policy is not applied? It must be too fabulous to be a solution to real world problems. Or else it might have been done long ago.

This way or that way (either way) employers give away SAME amount of money. Why then employers don’t give 4,500 or 5,000 to four different individuals instead of giving 20,000 to a single person? Just what is the reason which makes it unprofitable or unappealing?
Have you worked in a private sector company? Have your ever given effort estimates for your work?
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Re: Work-life balance queries

You have to create a table first, otherwise how will you query?

In order to balance you have to consider the periods you are comparing.

My query would be:

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select 
  case
    when count(work) - count(life) > 0 then 'Life is good'
    else 'life stinks'
  end as "Work-life balance"
from tbl_work_life_hours
where work not in ('Saturday', 'Sunday')
and work_hours between (8am and 5pm)
group by 1;

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Re: Work-life balance queries

Some employees may argue, “We are willing to work for longer time.” Due to what factor employers don’t reply, “Other people too need employment.”?
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1 person doing 1 work in 5 days is not equal to 5 ppl doing same job in 1 day. Once you complete 20% wrk & leave, next person wont b able to start right away - he will need time to understand wrk u hv done n only thn he can start.
Is this the reason? Probably yes.
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You have to create a table first, otherwise how will you query?

In order to balance you have to consider the periods you are comparing.

My query would be:

Code:
select 
  case
    when count(work) - count(life) > 0 then 'Life is good'
    else 'life stinks'
  end as "Work-life balance"
from tbl_work_life_hours
where work not in ('Saturday', 'Sunday')
and work_hours between (8am and 5pm)
group by 1;
There's a bug.

If count (work) - count (life) > 0, then 'life is good' seems wrong.
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1 person doing 1 work in 5 days is not equal to 5 ppl doing same job in 1 day. Once you complete 20% wrk & leave, next person wont b able to start right away - he will need time to understand wrk u hv done n only thn he can start.
Computers were supposedly invented to increase speed, increase accuracy and reduce mistakes. I interpret it as, “Computers were invented to reduce work.” But the opposite seems to happen. Apparently computers have increased human effort required. In olden days people would work from 9 am to 5 pm and would get more leaves and holidays on Sundays. Nowadays people work 24x7.
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Computers were supposedly invented to increase speed, increase accuracy and reduce mistakes. I interpret it as, “Computers were invented to reduce work.” But the opposite seems to happen. Apparently computers have increased human effort required. In olden days people would work from 9 am to 5 pm and would get more leaves and holidays on Sundays. Nowadays people work 24x7.
People still work 9 to 5 only, but bill for 24x7. This is typical desi programmer.
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