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Old August 12th, 2010, 10:44 PM
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Re: Tougher Chess Puzzles (force several moves and win)

I think this is what LB solution is trying to say. Again I am not sure, so if I am wrong somewhere then correct me

Black (B): Qg3
White(W): Qg3 (kills B's Queen)
B: Ne2 check
W: Kh1
B: Ng3 check (kills W's Queen)
W: Kg1
B: Ne2 check

At this point this is what the board looks like

Also remember LB solution says that Black is one N (Knight) up.
Is this the solution?

When B Queen moves to g3, white can choose to ignore the queen and go one attack of its own, but in order to remove the queen, white has to use his Queen, and the solution after that makes sense until it reaches the bold part.
Even after bold part, why will white give up?
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Old August 12th, 2010, 10:49 PM
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Re: Tougher Chess Puzzles (force several moves and win)

SunnyBhau, it is not my solution ... it was the IM or GM did in that particular situation ... We may have to really smart to figure it out ... I am know I am not ... but it is worth a try
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Re: Tougher Chess Puzzles (force several moves and win)

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I do not understand any of it. How do you read the solution posted by LB?

I am assuming that black will move its queen to g3? It can be taken out by even a pawn or queen, now I do not understand how to read the solution after this? Is there a convention I need to be aware of?
The bold part, I am not able to understand.
Is Ne2 Knight at e2? what is fxg3? g3 I know what is fx? similarly Rx?
Sorry if these are trivial questions, but someone pls help.

@LB, in your solution you did not put one Rook(Black) on board. The one which is on h3
Ok .. I got it ... Landya dropped one of the black rooks when he re-oriented the board.

Sunny bhau, white resigns because of material inferiority. Black goes one knight and one pawn up. This was not really a puzzle that leads to a definitive checkmate .. just establishing a position of superiority. There are several ways to achieve this, I guess.
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Re: Tougher Chess Puzzles (force several moves and win)

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Ok .. I got it ... Landya dropped one of the black rooks when he re-oriented the board.

Sunny bhau, white resigns because of material inferiority. Black goes one knight and one pawn up. This was not really a puzzle that leads to a definitive checkmate .. just establishing a position of superiority. There are several ways to achieve this, I guess.
Thanks Melly (nice catch) ...

Sorry folks, I had two windows open in two different browsers and forgot to put a rook ...
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Re: Tougher Chess Puzzles (force several moves and win)

Guys...do me a favor...each time you introduce a problem....number it...like Problem 1 or Challenge 1....and when solved...write solved

In that way, I don't end up butting my head against a solved problem
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Re: Tougher Chess Puzzles (force several moves and win)

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Thanks Melly (nice catch) ...

Sorry folks, I had two windows open in two different browsers and forgot to put a rook ...
melly ne nahi mene pehele notice kiya in post 28 or 29.
Drove me crazzy for a min or so, something did not look correct.
Good puzzle indeed, but as melly pointed out no certain answer, so can have multiple solutions, but the move with Queen to begin was amazing . After all GM played it, I was too occupied by forcing White to move and did not pay attention to the queen
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Old August 15th, 2010, 10:09 AM
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Re: Tougher Chess Puzzles (force several moves and win)

Puzzle 3: White to play win [Unsolved]



Code:
FEN: 2rq1r1k/1b1nbp1p/3ppp2/pp4P1/4P3/P1N3R1/1PPB1QBP/R3K3 
You can load this FEN code in chessup.net and try variations visually (instead of mentally )

BTW this is INSANELY DIFFICULT ... that means only SanelessBhau can solve it
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Re: Tougher Chess Puzzles (force several moves and win)

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BTW this is INSANELY DIFFICULT ... that means only SanelessBhau can solve it
I don't do chess, Landbadadena pai. I play chess... but only to finish the game... and it is inevitable that I always lose
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Old August 15th, 2010, 12:00 PM
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Re: Tougher Chess Puzzles (force several moves and win)

Puzzle 4: White to play win [Unsolved]



Code:
FEN: r1b2k1r/1p2bppp/p1B2q2/8/8/8/PPPQ1P1P/2KRR3 
You can load this FEN code in chessup.net and try variations visually (instead of mentally )

BTW this is INSANELY EASY ... that means SanelessBhau cant solve it
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Re: Tougher Chess Puzzles (force several moves and win)

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You can load this FEN code in chessup.net and try variations visually (instead of mentally )

BTW this is INSANELY EASY ... that means SanelessBhau cant solve it
Arre bhai in chessup.net and fen code thing, one is supposed to play both the sides? Ek baar chessup.net pe gaya tha, kuch jama nahi, so I am back to solving solitaire problems
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Arre bhai in chessup.net and fen code thing, one is supposed to play both the sides? Ek baar chessup.net pe gaya tha, kuch jama nahi, so I am back to solving solitaire problems
yes you have to play both the sides. Chessup.net helps you post your current position in forums and is makes it easier for other to understand where you are at and what you are trying to say.
I use the chess board at home to solve these puzzles, makes it easier for me to see things and too used to playing chess on board then online
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Re: Tougher Chess Puzzles (force several moves and win)

Puzzle 4 : Solution

White - Queen D2-B4 Forces Camel to take Queen out
Black - Bishop E7-B4
White - Rook E1-E8 checkmate

Did I solve it
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Swami yaar learn how to play chess. It is fun and puzzles keep your brain sharp
Link 1 for learning allowed moves in chess.
After you learn how all the pieces work in chess, then try playing one or two games in yahoo games ( you can also watch others play over there) to give you idea of how to prepare strategy and improve your game.
After a while go through these puzzles, they are fun fun
Also one think to note in chess, the more you play, the better you will be at strategy formation.
If you have questions, ask here ... there are many gurus here. Also if you are going to learn chess, then I suggest get to know how chessup.net works, will help you ask questions if you are stuck somewhere.
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After you learn how all the pieces work in chess, then try playing one or two games in yahoo games ( you can also watch others play over there) to give you idea of how to prepare strategy and improve your game.
Goodness !! Yahoo Games! Used to watch chess there 8-10 years ago. Just checked it again after nearly a decade. Seems like I have a rating of 1194
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