What is the main reason for rape ?

[AmthaLal]

Originally Posted by GpeL

LOL..sure sure.. I love you.. really really love you..

Here is a song for you.

Kahdo naa kah do naa you are my sanjayt
Dekha tum ko jab se
Dekha tum ko yaara
Tum se koi achaa hai
Naa tum se koi pyaara
Yun nazren na phero tum
Mere no mere tum
Kahdo naa kah do naa.

You cannot see me but I am doing Hritik roshan steps as I type this so ignore spelling mistakes.

OY.. happy..

Err.. belated kochan.. gangasnaanam aachaa? dipawali vaiztugal.

Welcome back Pelu.

Happy New year.

[GpeL]

Happy new year.. yaar abhi to november shuru hua hai..

Ab tum bolta hai chalo tum ko bhi happy new year.. but pai kausa bewda mara brand bataa naa.. apun ko voich brand mangta hai..

[dhurandhar]

Originally Posted by GpeL

Happy new year.. yaar abhi to november shuru hua hai..

Ab tum bolta hai chalo tum ko bhi happy new year.. but pai kausa bewda mara brand bataa naa.. apun ko voich brand mangta hai..

Gujarati calendar year begins on the day after Diwali...the brand you should try is DhurgyaanAasav

[Rakhi]

Originally Posted by Diplomat

(apologize for the language, )

I havent read it...I guess, just as well.

[sanjayt]

Originally Posted by GpeL

LOL..sure sure.. I love you.. really really love you..

Here is a song for you.

Kahdo naa kah do naa you are my sanjayt
Dekha tum ko jab se
Dekha tum ko yaara
Tum se koi achaa hai
Naa tum se koi pyaara
Yun nazren na phero tum
Mere no mere tum
Kahdo naa kah do naa.

You cannot see me but I am doing Hritik roshan steps as I type this so ignore spelling mistakes.

OY.. happy..

Err.. belated kochan.. gangasnaanam aachaa? dipawali vaiztugal.

Ooh, that's a lovely song, thanks, man ...

Dipawali vaiztugal! My Diwali was okay, kind of boring actually ...

[GpeL]

Given I have currently parked my buttocks in India, Diwali is rather dull but cannot blame the junta man.. if they have to buy 1000 rs of crackers for a reasonable diwali and currently onions are 100rs a kg and that is 10 Kgs of onion a full one month of careful use of that veggie that one cannot really do without, the choice becomes obvious man.. rather sad it is..

I gave up fire crackers 8 years ago children did light up quite a bit but got bored as their other friends finished their load and went home quick.. it was ok.. not great but chalega kinds for me.

[sanjayt]

Originally Posted by Diplomat

So one would allow rape (allow penetration) in order to prevent other physical molestation? Is that the argument?

The argument is ... well, I've already made my argument. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I'll rephrase it. Let me go back to what you said.

Originally Posted by Diplomat

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Point is: If the girl does not want to have sex, no man can force himself into her. Impossible.

Point is: If the girl does not want to have sex, some men can beat her to crap, causing severe injuries. Possible.

Point is: If the girl does not want to have sex, some men can kill her, enraged by the lack of submission. Possible.

Point is: If the girl does not want to have sex, all kinds of shit can happen. Possible.


If there is a point here, it is that resistance does not always work.

In some cases, a woman can resist after being attacked, escape to safety and avoid being raped.

But there are rapists who will get enraged with resistance. If they don't get what they want, they beat the crap out of the woman or, worse, kill her. There are rapists who beat the crap out of a woman and then rape her, as she lies there, barely conscious.

Anyone who is attacked has to think, in a stressful situation, about how to escape from that situation. Not everyone will have their brain functioning normally. Some people will be paralyzed by fear. Some will fight harder. Various individuals will react differently.

You see all types of news about rapists. There are all types of rapists. There are rapists who wouldn't hesitate to inflict harm. There are also rapists who do not want to beat the crap out of a woman. Each rape scenario is different.

You mentioned that had you had been unsuccessful in forcing yourself onto one particular woman. Here is a conjecture ... in your case, I guess that the woman in question was free to resist in a manner of her choosing, secure in the knowledge that she would not be harmed; this, unfortunately, is not a luxury that is available to everyone.

Please excuse the verbosity.

[Rakhi]

I am kinda getting scared looking at all the possibilities or ways of getting raped.

[GpeL]

All points considered, what ever happened to giving a really enjoyable kick on the rapists nuts.. not the proverbial nut.. the real one.. with the knee.. it would be fun and knock some sense into the rapists even if from the wrong end.. I agree it might not be possible if she has been tied up but if it was a case where she has been forced down by one person, such a solution could be handy.. I think minimum self defense of that kind must be taught and made almost reflexive.

My solution for rape..Women take basic bare hand defense lessons.. karate training should be made madatory, free (atleast minimum to enable kicking effectively at the above prescribed target) plus it is good for health and fitness and not to mention its positive influence on ones concentrating ability.. Seriously.. all women should consider this really practical and cheap alternative (Agreed it would be difficult in a saree, but in a rape scenario, saree eventually would stop becoming an impediment.) think about it.. besides, why not give the rapist insant justice there and then even if it means the prospect of fighting naked after all your cloths have been torn off of you forcibly.. must give something to think about for a long time for the would be offender and modesty aah it can come later. At least one's modesty has not been invaded and ripped off of her.

[Diplomat]

But there are rapists who will get enraged with resistance. If they don't get what they want, they beat the crap out of the woman or, worse, kill her. There are rapists who beat the crap out of a woman and then rape her, as she lies there, barely conscious.

interesting. I have never tried to have sex with a sleeping or unconscious female. Will there be enough lubrication and muscle relaxation to allow penetration?

[dhurandhar]

Originally Posted by Diplomat

interesting. I have never tried to have sex with a sleeping or unconscious female. Will there be enough lubrication and muscle relaxation to allow penetration?

you can use your thumbs to widen the hole...that gets you in...once in what people do, I don't know

[dhurandhar]

Originally Posted by Rakhi

I am kinda getting scared looking at all the possibilities or ways of getting raped.

you should be getting scared at the possibility of developing a liking for rape fantasy...its a Freudian thing...many homophobes/gay-haters turn out to be closet homosexuals

[dhurandhar]

Originally Posted by sanjayt

The argument is ... well, I've already made my argument. Maybe I wasn't clear enough. I'll rephrase it. Let me go back to what you said.





Point is: If the girl does not want to have sex, some men can beat her to crap, causing severe injuries. Possible.

Point is: If the girl does not want to have sex, some men can kill her, enraged by the lack of submission. Possible.

Point is: If the girl does not want to have sex, all kinds of shit can happen. Possible.


If there is a point here, it is that resistance does not always work.

In some cases, a woman can resist after being attacked, escape to safety and avoid being raped.

But there are rapists who will get enraged with resistance. If they don't get what they want, they beat the crap out of the woman or, worse, kill her. There are rapists who beat the crap out of a woman and then rape her, as she lies there, barely conscious.

Anyone who is attacked has to think, in a stressful situation, about how to escape from that situation. Not everyone will have their brain functioning normally. Some people will be paralyzed by fear. Some will fight harder. Various individuals will react differently.

You see all types of news about rapists. There are all types of rapists. There are rapists who wouldn't hesitate to inflict harm. There are also rapists who do not want to beat the crap out of a woman. Each rape scenario is different.

You mentioned that had you had been unsuccessful in forcing yourself onto one particular woman. Here is a conjecture ... in your case, I guess that the woman in question was free to resist in a manner of her choosing, secure in the knowledge that she would not be harmed; this, unfortunately, is not a luxury that is available to everyone.

Please excuse the verbosity.

Resistance will deter most rapists. Those that won't be deterred are those that know the victim is unconscious, under influence of drugs/alcohol, and are in solitary place when the rapist is armed.

[sanjayt]

Originally Posted by Rakhi

I am kinda getting scared looking at all the possibilities or ways of getting raped.

Don't worry!

Pelu is here to give you karate classes ...

[sanjayt]

Originally Posted by GpeL

Given I have currently parked my buttocks in India, Diwali is rather dull but cannot blame the junta man.. if they have to buy 1000 rs of crackers for a reasonable diwali and currently onions are 100rs a kg and that is 10 Kgs of onion a full one month of careful use of that veggie that one cannot really do without, the choice becomes obvious man.. rather sad it is..

I gave up fire crackers 8 years ago children did light up quite a bit but got bored as their other friends finished their load and went home quick.. it was ok.. not great but chalega kinds for me.

As for firecrackers, it's okay if folks want to have some fun with phooljhadis and anaars and rockets.

No bombs (firecrackers)! As you know, they sell these small bombs in 100 packs, and it goes off tap-tap-tap phat-phat-phat. There are people who enjoy this cacophony? Goes to show there absolutely is no accounting for taste.

What I've noticed is that folks are becoming more sensitive about this issue. Somehow I feel that fewer and fewer people are bursting bombs. There is hope yet.