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![]() When browsing the net, I came across this small town Malerkotla in Punjab (India of course) that has a Muslim majority population.
We all learnt in history about the bitter partition of British India back in 1947. Hindus & Sikhs from the west (Present day Pakistan) were forcefully driven out to the east (India) & Muslims from as far as Bihar forcefully sent to the West. The partition led to bitter battles along the Radcliffe line which led to massacres on both sides. Apparently Punjab bore the brunt of the bitterness of partition of which the major chunk of land went into present day Pakistan. So how did this town Malerkotla manage to retain its majority Muslim population ? I don’t think any town or village in Pakistan Punjab or even Pakistan as a whole today has a majority Hindu or Sikh population. Sindh is the only province that still has a small Hindu population today. But the Punjab in Pakistan is over 97% Muslim. Anybody care to share some lessons in history on Malerkotla? I couldn’t find enough info on Wikipedia. Thanks. ![]() Last edited by Cooldude; October 30th, 2015 at 09:49 AM. |
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For minorities to disappear from Muslim lands., they don't need an extremist leader or sect to lead them towards it. It happens naturally. Once the critical mass is achieved, it's natural of ROP to swallow others (before it starts swallowing itself but leave that part). This swallowing does not come naturally to Hindus & Hinduism (au contraire, Hinduism has given birth to many other religions). Hindus need leadership to attack, massacre or make 'others' disappear. For, r-o-p, a leader is welcome but not required. One can find many malerkotas in India but certainly not a single across the border.
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So, Cool pai has a valid question. I also find it surprising. Is it a coincidence that Mohammed rafi also belonged to this area.
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Ok, this Mohammed Rafi town is some other kotla near Amritsar 200 km away from Malerkotla.
Did some more googling and wiking and came across this It is said when Mughal emperor Aurangzeb, against whose tyranny the 10th Guru had waged a relentless war, decided to kill the two sons of the Guru, one of the Nawabs of Malerkotla, Sher Mohammad Khan, vociferously opposed the move. He appealed to Aurangzeb to spare the lives of the Guru’s sons who had been captured by the Mughal army at Sirhind. It is said that the Nawab declared that the decision to execute them was against the tenets of Islam. In his appeal, he is told the Emperor that even if his plea was not accepted, he would have the consolation of having performed the sacred duty of seeking what was right and just. Incidentally, the same Nawab had been fighting the Guru along with Aurangzeb’s armies Link The above probably is the reason, Saraqdrjis spared this one.
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Let me rephrase. Hindus (Dharmics) need a specific purpose (event, leader, sect etc.) to get aggressive, attack & cleanse others. Once that purpose / time is gone, they reverrt to their natural state of inclusiveness.
Religion of Peace needs nothing. Just give it sufficient time. That is its nature. It's 7 decades since 47. In this time, both just followed their nature.
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The idea of comparing Abrahmic with Indic religion is equally false. Christainity and Judaism have been equally savage and isn't legend of fight between Mahabharat is equally savage? Quote:
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Bravery & fierceness is not same as savagery. However, when it comes to cold blodded killing, savagery gives better results. Mahabharata was a war where two identifiable parties were at loggerheads. Wars have happened & will happen. Wars are "exceptional situations". The savagery by peacefuls does not need a 'war'. It's a 'norm'. A war will enhance that savagery. Just like a leader will. But its not required. Understand the difference between exception & norm. Human beings are invariably bigots. However, a 'religion' having inbuilt bigotry is a different thing altogether. I am sure you have heard of taqiyah. Don't compare apples & oranges.
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When we are talking of Kingdom of Middle Ages with no British type chivalry celebrated war was always savagery glorified. People adored brave but never commended others bravery. Arjun always got disturbed whenever karna's skill was acclaimed by Krishna, while Patton was held in highest esteem by Rommel. Savagery of Muslim is natural as any-other religion. Savagery is not only thing when certain religion says kill the other infidel, savagery is when religion asks its follower to put molten lead in the ears of its own lower strata of follower, hope you have heard of most followed Hindu text of Manusmriti and that is in-built bigotry. Imagine place of non-Hinndus in Hindu society, High caste hindus treat muslims with as much contempt as lower caste Hindus. Islam needs its rule to put Jiziya on people while Hinduism believes in perpetual bondage of lower caste generations to upper caste if one is part of Hindu society. Infact even god never incarnated in lower castes ![]() jeetIAF
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Peaceseekah pai, you have like 20 posts out there that are rep-worthy... but I could not spread around enough to keep repping you. So just consider this post as 20-reps to you... 20 *
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And I always knew I was always absurd. jeetIAF
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"Killing infidel" - a NORM which every muslim is aware of, has read, understood, absorbed etc. repeatedly since childhood from the book of peace. "Putting molten lead in the ears of shudras" - an EXCEPTION. Here’s how: As you might have guessed, I am an "extremist" Hindu. FIRST TIME I heard about Manusmriti was when I was in my 20s. I saw it mentioned in an Internet forum and in the exact same context where a peaceful was "balancing" ROP against the evil caste ridden idol worshipping Hindu religion. He knew about Manusmiriti and “molten lead” stuff when I didn’t any of them. The hate within ROP makes them search for evil stuff everwhere so that they can lie to themselves that "all is well". Like you, they quote " sati pratha", manusmriti etc. which even "kattar Hindus" may not know about. Please add 2+2. The very fact that you question "hope you have heard of most followed Hindu text of Manusmriti" makes it an exception. Can you ask the question "have you read BOP" to a peaceful? I dont think I can explain in simpler words. Neither is super intelligence required to understand what I am saying. Exception is exception. Norm is norm. They cannot “balance” each other. I am sure for you, ISIS and RSS are two sides of the same coin. Quote:
And I am not sure, but Hanuman is supposed to be from OBC category. I can produce “links” as proof. ROP is a hollow ideology. It has no substance. It claims to be perfect when it is absolutely shit (Its claims of being 'perfect' is a desperate attempt to hide the fact that its biggest shit of all) It is more imperfect that the most imperfect ideology possible. It’s past & present is full of barbarism & savagery. World got woken up to it after 911. But an average Indian Dharmic knew about the internal hollowness of the cult since much before. I am not talking about peacefuls but about ROP.
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Yeah, but that doesn't help me. I still need to find someone else to rep before coming around to you. And you keep posting one stunner after another... post one above (#13) needs to be noted. How can you be so simple and elucidite and apna Jeetfail pai still keeps comparing apples to oranges
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