Malerkotla, Punjab

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Originally Posted by Sane Less

Yeah, but that doesn't help me. I still need to find someone else to rep before coming around to you. And you keep posting one stunner after another... post one above (#13) needs to be noted. How can you be so simple and elucidite and apna Jeetfail pai still keeps comparing apples to oranges

give to me.. here's the link you need to go to.

[sgars]

Originally Posted by Sane Less

Yeah, but that doesn't help me. I still need to find someone else to rep before coming around to you. And you keep posting one stunner after another... post one above (#13) needs to be noted. How can you be so simple and elucidite and apna Jeetfail pai still keeps comparing apples to oranges

You could rep me and him alternately. Problem solved

[sgars]

Originally Posted by ashdoc

http://www.malerkotla.info/

I think i missed it. i posted the same thing.

[PeaceSeeker]

Originally Posted by Sane Less

Yeah, but that doesn't help me. I still need to find someone else to rep before coming around to you. And you keep posting one stunner after another... post one above (#13) needs to be noted. How can you be so simple and elucidite and apna Jeetfail pai still keeps comparing apples to oranges

I didnt rep you to help you rep me. I just repped

I hope jeetiaf realizes how futile his counter arguments are. There was a time I used to think his arguments have weight. Once he said, "Kashmir issue" is about ethnicity and has nothing to do with religion. Since it came from him, I kind of pondered over it. But it seems he says stuff just for the sake of it.

[sgars]

Originally Posted by PeaceSeeker

Let me rephrase. Hindus (Dharmics) need a specific purpose (event, leader, sect etc.) to get aggressive, attack & cleanse others. Once that purpose / time is gone, they reverrt to their natural state of inclusiveness.
Religion of Peace needs nothing. Just give it sufficient time. That is its nature.
It's 7 decades since 47. In this time, both just followed their nature.

Les organize stuff-->
A - Malerkotla
There was a purpose in 47 and there was quite a bit of wiping out of peaceful guys in Punjab (Mind you, Sardarjis had a bitter history with R.O.P till Zia ul Haq, and the Gandhi family changed things).

Cool Pai's question was how this city managed to get away. Doc ji and then i have pasted the answer to this question.

b. general ROP
Your comment was to his PC statement on there being massacre on both the sides. i wont debate that.
However, have an observation (on the lines of Jeet Pai) that more Hindus managed to get away in Sindh or then East Bengal than in West Punjab. Is it that peaceful guys are not so peaceful there or there were more Hindus to start with.

[Sane Less]

Originally Posted by sarv_shaktimaan

give to me.. here's the link you need to go to.

Originally Posted by sgars

You could rep me and him alternately. Problem solved

Thanks for the help.

[Sane Less]

Originally Posted by sgars

...
However, have an observation (on the lines of Jeet Pai) that more Hindus managed to get away in Sindh or then East Bengal than in West Punjab. Is it that peaceful guys are not so peaceful there or there were more Hindus to start with.

I would say, more hindus to start with. This also explains what happened to India. There are plenty of arguments that say that with all the violence brought to India by the moghuls, there should be no Hinduism left in India... so, conversely, since there are so many Hindus left, moghuls were peaceful.

[PeaceSeeker]

Originally Posted by sgars

Les organize stuff-->
A - Malerkotla
There was a purpose in 47 and there was quite a bit of wiping out of peaceful guys in Punjab (Mind you, Sardarjis had a bitter history with R.O.P till Zia ul Haq, and the Gandhi family changed things).

Cool Pai's question was how this city managed to get away. Doc ji and then i have pasted the answer to this question.

b. general ROP
Your comment was to his PC statement on there being massacre on both the sides. i wont debate that.
However, have an observation (on the lines of Jeet Pai) that more Hindus managed to get away in Sindh or then East Bengal than in West Punjab. Is it that peaceful guys are not so peaceful there or there were more Hindus to start with.

In a peaceful majority area, if 'others' have not vanished, it means the peacefuls are not following ROP in true sense. Eg. Indonesia, the largest peaceful nation, is supposedly quite tolerant. The peacefuls there do not object to Ganesha's picture on currency notes. As per rop, idol worshipping is one of the biggest sin. Absolutely evil & haram. Obviously, these peacefuls are erring. They told Vajpayee that "we have changed our religion but that does not mean we have changed our roots & past culture". This is absolutely un-ropic. Once a mozzie, all evil kafir past should be gone. Otherwise you haven't embraced r-o-p genuinely.

[PeaceSeeker]

Originally Posted by Sane Less

I would say, more hindus to start with. This also explains what happened to India. There are plenty of arguments that say that with all the violence brought to India by the moghuls, there should be no Hinduism left in India... so, conversely, since there are so many Hindus left, moghuls were peaceful.

Actually, the mughlas used extreme force to begin with (as expected of ROP). But very soon they realized that too much force is risky for their own rule because the it set the alarm/bells ringing amongst Hindus. It is then that they turned soft, slow, steady & applied strategy of "moderate force for a longer time". That is my knowledge and likely the truth.

[Cooldude]

Thanks for your replies Ashdoc, Sgars & Peaceseeker....

Peaceseeker, apparently before partition, Gurdaspur, Ferozepur & a few more towns in East Punjab had a majority Muslim population. So the ethnic cleansing during partition wasn't merely confined to the west & was mutual on both sides..

[Sane Less]

Originally Posted by Cooldude

Thanks for your replies Ashdoc, Sgars & Peaceseeker....

Peaceseeker, apparently before partition, Gurdaspur, Ferozepur & a few more towns in East Punjab had a majority Muslim population. So the ethnic cleansing during partition wasn't merely confined to the west & was mutual on both sides..

I think you are mis-reading the situation. If you remember the conditions, "peaceful" people can go to Pukestan... while Hindus there can come over. Don't know if you are considering this as ethnic cleansing.

[swami]

Originally Posted by PeaceSeeker

No probs. I repped you this time

Originally Posted by Sane Less

Yeah, but that doesn't help me. I still need to find someone else to rep before coming around to you. And you keep posting one stunner after another... post one above (#13) needs to be noted. How can you be so simple and elucidite and apna Jeetfail pai still keeps comparing apples to oranges

Wondering who removed the rep icon/buton on my posts

[sgars]

Originally Posted by Sane Less

I think you are mis-reading the situation. If you remember the conditions, "peaceful" people can go to Pukestan... while Hindus there can come over. Don't know if you are considering this as ethnic cleansing.

The original deal was that everyone remained where they were. But thanks to the ethnic cleansing that followed (it started with 'Direct action day' and apparently ended with Gandhi's assasination), there was a big movement.

[Sane Less]

Originally Posted by sgars

The original deal was that everyone remained where they were. But thanks to the ethnic cleansing that followed (it started with 'Direct action day' and apparently ended with Gandhi's assasination), there was a big movement.

I do not think that was the deal. If that was the case then Jinnah would have remained in Bombay... no

[sgars]

Originally Posted by Sane Less

I do not think that was the deal. If that was the case then Jinnah would have remained in Bombay... no

He probably wanted to settle back in Bombay after setting up Pakistan. That is what many big shot 'Engagement Managers' do. 'Structure a program', show some powerpoints on the awesome benefits and move on to another one before cans of worm open up for the next bakra. Only here, he died within months of setting that up.