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Old July 19th, 2018, 11:32 AM
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I wonder how people can confidently talk about innovation and doing PhD in the fields of science, technology, economy, commerce, arts, literature etc. These rhetoric people include colleagues, media as well as members here in this forum.

I and my college friend knew our limitations. We never aspired to innovate or to do PhD. Heck, we didn't even bother to do our mandatory college engineering project. We straightaway bribed our teacher and he brought us ready-made project for bachelor's degree education from his sources in industry.

We knew that concepts like innovation and PhD are for geniuses only. But people around me use these terms so confidently and nonchalantly, I wonder if I am surrounded by geniuses.

Nowadays there are so many PhD holders, I wonder if there works are really worthy of the doctorate degree awarded to them. And I presume that when keyboard warriors speak of innovation with an air of confidence, they actually misinterpret minor cleverness as some kind of incremental innovation.
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Old July 19th, 2018, 11:45 AM
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I wonder how people can confidently talk about innovation and doing PhD in the fields of science, technology, economy, commerce, arts, literature etc. These rhetoric people include colleagues, media as well as members here in this forum.

I and my college friend knew our limitations. We never aspired to innovate or to do PhD. Heck, we didn't even bother to do our mandatory college engineering project. We straightaway bribed our teacher and he brought us ready-made project for bachelor's degree education from his sources in industry.

We knew that concepts like innovation and PhD are for geniuses only. But people around me use these terms so confidently and nonchalantly, I wonder if I am surrounded by geniuses.

Nowadays there are so many PhD holders, I wonder if there works are really worthy of the doctorate degree awarded to them. And I presume that when keyboard warriors speak of innovation with an air of confidence, they actually misinterpret minor cleverness as some kind of incremental innovation.
so what did you invent? List your patents please, eager to know.
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so what did you invent? List your patents please, eager to know.
Do you even read the post? Read second paragraph.
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Old July 19th, 2018, 12:03 PM
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Do you even read the post? Read second paragraph.
Looks like you didn't go to English classes either. It should be "Did you even read the post?".
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Looks like you didn't go to English classes either. It should be "Did you even read the post?".
Yes I am a fucking genius , for me making my first billion was the best experience but I knew my capabilities so i decided to settle for 10 bucks.
I am still a fucking genius . I wonder if these paper billionaires are worth it .
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I think you are displaying your limited IQ.

You need people who do research in pure sciences and technology. The biggest advantage USA has over other nations is the number of PhDs in science and technology. These folks contribute a lot and we all see it as innovation.
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I think you are displaying your limited IQ.

You need people who do research in pure sciences and technology. The biggest advantage USA has over other nations is the number of PhDs in science and technology. These folks contribute a lot and we all see it as innovation.
That is USA. This is India. In USA when somebody is awarded PhD, he/she genuinely deserves the title. Not so in India.
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Long back Engineers were also hyped up (remember Satyakam and Satyam Shivam Sundaram). But now they are a commodity in India. Same could happen to PHDs too if more jobs needed PhDs.



You took 8 years to complete your engineering. How long would you take to finish PHD even in India.
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Long back Engineers were also hyped up (remember Satyakam and Satyam Shivam Sundaram). But now they are a commodity in India. Same could happen to PHDs too if more jobs needed PhDs.
What is Satyakam and what is Satyam Shivam Sundaram? I don't know the context. Please tell.
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You took 8 years to complete your engineering. How long would you take to finish PHD even in India.
Who told you I took 8 years to complete engineering?
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What is Satyakam and what is Satyam Shivam Sundaram? I don't know the context. Please tell.
Hindi movies in the 70s.
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Hindi movies in the 70s.
Where the heroes are civil engineers. In SSS, Shashi Kapoor has another use for a level (or was it a theodolite).
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Who told you I took 8 years to complete engineering?
I was mistaken. You actually took 10 years.
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Where the heroes are civil engineers. In SSS, Shashi Kapoor has another use for a level (or was it a theodolite).

It was a level.



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Long back Engineers were also hyped up (remember Satyakam and Satyam Shivam Sundaram). But now they are a commodity in India. Same could happen to PHDs too if more jobs needed PhDs.



You took 8 years to complete your engineering. How long would you take to finish PHD even in India.
In Satyam Shivam Sundaram, he got a mixed bag with Zeenat Aman. Hot body but face was fucked up. Such is life of engineer.
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