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Old June 10th, 2014, 11:54 AM
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Who is to be blamed for the Manali dam tragedy?

Who is to be blamed for the Manali dam tragedy?



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A sightseeing trip in a mountainous resort town in northern India turned tragic on Sunday after dozens of students were swept away by surging waters from a dam release while snapping pictures on a riverbank. Four bodies were recovered Monday morning, but 21 others are still missing with police calling the chances for survival "slim."

A group of 48 engineering students from the southern Indian city of Hyderabad were visiting the resort town of Manali, about 330 miles north of New Delhi. The engineering students were taking photos along the bank of the Beas River when a sudden discharge of water from a dam upstream caught them by surprise, according to the Associated Press. At least 24 students were washed away from the surge of water.

Kiran Kumar, a professor accompanying the students, said he saw the water level rising and tried to tell the students to step back from the bank, but "within one or two seconds, the water level increased all of a sudden. Some of the students were washed away right in front of me," he told the Associated Press.

The Indian Express reports that authorities released water from an upstream reservoir without any warning. The incident prompted fury from locals, who blocked the national highway in protest. Himachal Pradesh Chief Minister Virbhadra Singh demanded the dam's engineer be suspended while the incident is investigated.

Search efforts were ongoing Monday, but a shortage of boats and divers was hampering those operations.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 12:01 PM
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Re: Who is to be blamed for the Manali dam tragedy?

chutiya people going to the middle of a frikkin river, not a bloody naala or stream. in Himachal every year many chutiyas die due to such stupidity, some mofos sit on rocks to click pic like a sanyasi, slip and die. Famous one: 4/5 IITians drove a jeep on steep roads, lost control and died.. nothing new, foolish youngsters will die like this all the time, I just pity their parents.. aise log pe aasu bahana bhi bekaar hai.

What were the lecturers and tour guide doing? mofos were themselves with the students sitting in the river clicking pics for facebook. I saw on TV that one lecturer was typical engineering faculty.. 1 year older than students.

Do you expect dam authorities to warn 18 kms stretch of river about releasing water? And many people are blaming no help after accident for hours, no proper warning signs on side of road.. pencho this is India wake up and smell the shit, people don't follow the traffic lights, will they follow road signs?

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Old June 10th, 2014, 12:19 PM
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chutiya people going to the middle of a frikkin river, not a bloody naala or stream. in Himachal every year many chutiyas die due to such stupidity, some mofos sit on rocks to click pic like a sanyasi, slip and die. Famous one: 4/5 IITians drove a jeep on steep roads, lost control and died.. nothing new, foolish youngsters will die like this all the time, I just pity their parents.. aise log pe aasu bahana bhi bekaar hai.

What were the lecturers and tour guide doing? mofos were themselves with the students sitting in the river clicking pics for facebook. I saw on TV that one lecturer was typical engineering faculty.. 1 year older than students.

Do you expect dam authorities to warn 18 kms stretch of river about releasing water? And many people are blaming no help after accident for hours, no proper warning signs on side of road.. pencho this is India wake up and smell the shit, people don't follow the traffic lights, will they follow road signs?

I think it is the government's job to post caution signs across the river. If the students choose to go into the river despite the warnings, then it's their problem.

But then again, it is India. Nowadays, roads are getting better and people are driving faster. But the cars are not built to drive for hours at 100 km/hr. People don't put on seat belts. There is no safeguards for babies and little kids. Everything is Raam Bharose.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 12:36 PM
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Re: Who is to be blamed for the Manali dam tragedy?

There were also no signs telling them its a river and that one can drown in a river and die. Just like there are no signs on Indian roads telling people they can crash their car if they don't stop at a red light.
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Re: Who is to be blamed for the Manali dam tragedy?

The dam officials are supposed to blast a horn. If they did and the students ignored it then it is the fault of the students. Else if no horn was blasted... then clearly it is the fault of the officials.

And ye kya funda hai... that students cannot go down to a river A human being, or any other animal, is naturally attracted to water. We see water we want to get wet in it... it is in our jeans. And with cameras and all... it is just completely natural. What happened here is kinda like a flashflood. If this was a flash flood nobody would have bothered... yes, people lose lives because of flash floods... just because of that we stay from water is foolish.
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Old June 10th, 2014, 02:08 PM
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Re: Who is to be blamed for the Manali dam tragedy?

apparently the horn was sounded but they were about 1-2 kms away from the dam, so may not have heard it .. and even if they did hear it, they prolly wouldn't know what to make of it.

Beas river is not a small one, it is a major river.. one can definitely choose to go in the river on a rock, like these people did (watch the video). Whether you will live to talk about it is another story.

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Re: Who is to be blamed for the Manali dam tragedy?

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The dam officials are supposed to blast a horn.
Has you lost password cause your english is sucking today. Cars and trucks have horns, bysycle has ghantee, and cities and dams are supposed to have Bhompoos ...







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Re: Who is to be blamed for the Manali dam tragedy?

The last time I went to Himachal, they had signs in hindi and english next to all rivers and streams basically saying to stay away from any type of moving water.
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Re: Who is to be blamed for the Manali dam tragedy?

Somebody got the whole thing captured on their cell phone.. Watch the Beas river tragedy and judge for yourself

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Re: Who is to be blamed for the Manali dam tragedy?

What the hell were these students doing in the middle of the river?

I spent 2 weeks in Himachal. There are countless warning signs to stay away from moving water and all the locals warn you to stay away.
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Re: Who is to be blamed for the Manali dam tragedy?

Why in the world would one go into the middle of the river?! Especially close to a reservoir?! I say its the "fault" (for the lack of better word..maybe stupidity comes close) of everyone involved. Even the teachers. They are supposed to warn their students not to wander off into rivers. Maybe they did and the students didnt listen.

If I am not mistaken, water is released only at certain times during certain days. Warning horns ... (errrrr) sirens are issued without fail as they know that there are morons wandering about in the middle of a river. If the force of the water was strong enough o wash them away, then they were close enough to realize they were near a reservoir. stupid stupid stupid students.
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What the hell were these students doing in the middle of the river?

I spent 2 weeks in Himachal. There are countless warning signs to stay away from moving water and all the locals warn you to stay away.
If that's the case, the casualty was avoidable. But you can't say the people who died were morons. That would not be nice. So it's got to be someone else's fault.
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Somebody got the whole thing captured on their cell phone.. Watch the Beas river tragedy and judge for yourself

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Could this video be fake? Looks like it was shot from a chopper...he/she seems so calm while shooting everything (am watching in mute though, not sure if there were high pitched cries).

Its such a shame people died...so close to the land. Reminds of that Korean ferry.
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apparently the horn was sounded but they were about 1-2 kms away from the dam, so may not have heard it .. and even if they did hear it, they prolly wouldn't know what to make of it.

Beas river is not a small one, it is a major river.. one can definitely choose to go in the river on a rock, like these people did (watch the video). Whether you will live to talk about it is another story.

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Re: Who is to be blamed for the Manali dam tragedy?

My maternal family lives in Chamba, Himachal.. I have visited very often during school days in summer vacations.. We used to go to small streams and play, but never near the river Ravi which was just 15 minutes downhill.. We knew we'd be skinned alive by elders if we even thought of going to the river. Any kids or youngsters are reported to their family or police if they venture near the river.

Lots of dam related tragedies occur in the catchment area in mountains.. villagers and cattle mistake the water to be a few feet deep when its metres deep.. the surface of the water seems like its moving slowly but different layers of water move at increasing speeds underneath the surface.

These folks must not have known that Beas is a major river not a stream.. it is one of the rivers that make up Punjab.. the land of 5 rivers.. Jhelum, Chenab, Satluj, Ravi, Beas. The media is using this incident for TRPs and pouncing on authorities who I feel are not to blame. As I said there is a 18 km stretch until the next dam, one can't be checking if morons are sitting in the middle of the river.

Its a bit like I go and sit atop a train when its at the platform, it starts moving and I fall off and die, my family blames the railway for not posting a warning nor sounding the hooter, which I don't know if the trains still do.

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