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Old November 10th, 2009, 02:42 PM
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Spriteji ... I am not surprised. People from our part of the woods do take obligations and responsibilities as an oath. We pay our debts. We meet our obligations. We know our sense of worth. But it does take all kind ... isn't it?

I agree with you ... an obligation this is. All obligations must be settled and paid back with interest. Sending a check for $$ is hardly settling your debt. It doesn't cover even the interest on the fun you have had at this site. You understand ... I understand ... try explaining it those who don't. Better still ... don't try.

Spriteji ... thousand years of ghulami has done lot of harm to our psyche. Most of us Indians would rather be followers than take responsibility or held responsible. Being a moderator is a responsibility. Have you gotten in touch with names you suggest? Try and see if you can find some with sense of obligation and debt? Wish you luck. Goat and sheep galore. Be ready for disappointment.

I salute you and I do support you choices. Good members them all. Worthy of responsibilities. But they are not from our part of the world ... Spriteji. Try and see if you can appeal to their sense of debt. Try.

I wish you succeed cause I would like to be relieved of my duties and enjoy as all members do. I have paid my debt to this site and am relieved of obligation ... I have earned the right to enjoy being normal member and bullshit as only I can. This is not the first time but I have emailed Sutradarji to please relieve me.

Spriteji ... remove my name from list of three. Suggest a replacement. I really want to enjoy as everybody else does. I have paid my debt. I have earned the right to be free.
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I am reading this thread ... and also the thread in LM.

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Sprite , I see you have proposed me in many places. Thanks but no thanks . I dont want to be a moderator.

your entusiasm is commendable and since you are taking about projects let me give u first lesson 'bout projects.

" If it's working it ai'nt broken "

Do not try to fix a system that is working.

No changes no new mods.
I absolutely agree with dirty here! This system is working. I see no reason to shake up things and make everyone a mod.

Vyomi, your intensions are good but for a site of our size, the mod list is a bit too big! For example, for the defense forum, you suggested me, babu, yourself and ashdoc. Pray tell me, who else participates in that forum other than four of us? We will be moderating each others posts! So, leave this aside. CD has explained why he remove GG's posts and its satisfactory enough that GG has shut his c*ckhole and stayed out! End of story.
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I recommend he takes over all aspects of the site. I'd be more than happy. What better way to honour the most active member on this site since its inception?

Vyomi, tu takover kar le yaar. Mujhe chootkara mil jayega.
My original intention to start the thread was not that I want to become moderator. I would have appreciated my inclusion if the decision was taken without me initiating 'administrative reforms" i.e with free and most importantly fair mind! . And its not about being active, I guess in past its always been 'value-addition' as criteria for becoming a moderator, right?

Let me explain why the thread was started and my original intentions.

We have at most 20 active members here. Almost 150posts/day. 6 moderators in all. Which means almost 1/3rd junta is moderator.

Now I still remember what I wrote when the new moderators were welcomed. I wrote "interesting decision...anyways welcome"! May be new moderators/members may have misinterpreted my choice of words but I was surprised at the decision because, IMO, even a single amthaji, cooldududeji and yogiji are enough to carry out moderation activities here. Having seen you guys sense of judgement and responsibility and by no small measure the amount of moderation required on this site, I was surprised that two new names have been added. Added without replacement! Now I know what cha pai must be thinking after reading this thread..."saala meri site..kisiko bhi bannau.n..iske baap ka kya jaa raha hain" ...now my question has never been 'kisko banao'...all you moderator gang has never ever failed to impress me by your sense of judgement and dedication but my question is how many do we need? and if we really need 6 then for 24-hr coverage we need to have moderators from India too. And this is why I suggested aragorn's name in both last and current thread. i have been watching this guy for sometime and IMO he is fit to take up this responsibility. But even if he he included in gang then I would not support his candidature as 7th moderator. He should replace some moderator and this is the reason why I started this thread with "a leader should create more leaders..."

This is it...Trinity is more than required for this site. I just wanted to know how, if need be, a new moderator will be installed? addition or replacement? ofcourse who he/she will replace is not at all the question!

In any case, this was just an exercise. I knew it right from the word go that no member including admin will agree to my blablabla. I just wanted to see the moderators reactions to this proposal and I got it

In any case, if in future there is discussion amongst you guys about new addition (ofcourse with replacement) then 'aragorn' (from India) and 'chitrala' are the guyz who you can test!

@dirty- bhaiji....I know the system is working. It has worked for the past 10 years. But innovation, as a pilot-project, can do no harm, right? Ofcourse being into IT management your managerial skills level is unparalleled when compared to me. It was just an opinion.
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Let people use self moderation. No need to add more moderators / sub moderators / sub sub moderators etc.
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Let people use self moderation. No need to add more moderators / sub moderators / sub sub moderators etc.
Thank You ... Self moderation is the best moderation ...
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Thank You ... Self moderation is the best moderation ...
WHAAAATTT? All thE tamasha and we conclude at this?? No change/replacements/inclusions in moderators???
HOW BORING IS THIS!!!
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WHAAAATTT? All thE tamasha and we conclude at this?? No change/replacements/inclusions in moderators???
HOW BORING IS THIS!!!
See if you derive utmost pleasure by jerking off of such situations I recommend you join those forums in times of india or some online news website ... for there you can pursue your ultimate dream of not getting bored ... there will always be something to screw around ...

regarding moderators (inclusions, changes, replacements, and what-not), I am sure you realize that we do not change because we got bored
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See if you derive utmost pleasure by jerking off of such situations I recommend you join those forums in times of india or some online news website ... for there you can pursue your ultimate dream of not getting bored ... there will always be something to screw around ...

regarding moderators (inclusions, changes, replacements, and what-not), I am sure you realize that we do not change because we got bored
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My original intention to start the thread was not that I want to become moderator.
Please dont put it like this ... it makes me feel that suggesting a laundry list of expectations off of a moderator is more than enough ... Please suggest only if you have it in you to shoulder such responsibilities ...

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I would have appreciated my inclusion if the decision was taken without me initiating 'administrative reforms" i.e with free and most importantly fair mind! .
free and fair mind ... what do you mean by this?

Are you trying to say that your suggestion of laundry list of suggestions make you unfair and bonded as a member who shouldnt be considered to take upon these responsibilities ... if that is the case, then why suggest in the first place?


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And its not about being active, I guess in past its always been 'value-addition' as criteria for becoming a moderator, right?
No it was never about value-addition ... You are much of an old-timer than me and I did not value add anything to this site when I asked for the responsibility ... I just felt I can do it better ...

Also, what exactly qualifies as value-addition is something that is beyond me? Please clarify ...

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Let me explain why the thread was started and my original intentions.

We have at most 20 active members here. Almost 150posts/day. 6 moderators in all. Which means almost 1/3rd junta is moderator.
That is what I said, we are not a 2000+ member forum ... So even 6 is more than enough ... But initially you suggested a number of folks and that number was 3 times this number ... Isnt this a U-turn from your own suggestions, not that taking a U-turn is bad ... You have taken the initiative and I would hope that we are able to distill it down (no matter how many u-turns we take)

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Now I still remember what I wrote when the new moderators were welcomed. I wrote "interesting decision...anyways welcome"! May be new moderators/members may have misinterpreted my choice of words but I was surprised at the decision because, IMO, even a single amthaji, cooldududeji and yogiji are enough to carry out moderation activities here. Having seen you guys sense of judgement and responsibility and by no small measure the amount of moderation required on this site, I was surprised that two new names have been added. Added without replacement!
It is your interpretation that it is added without replacement ... Amtha, Jai and Sunny were invited to lead ... Landya, Cooldude, and Tyji told the new ones to make sure that there is no need for old folks to continue cleaning the mess ... But since you know echarcha is not anyone 2x7 job ... we all have a life that is much larger and much time consuming than echarcha ... hence you see that sometimes old folks have to clean up ... I dont see any issue ... When I joined, I did not see an issue at that time ... and I am sure the new mods do not see it ... regarding access-level priveleges which you might be referring to, we have asked Sunit to revoke for the old mods like us ... I can understand why he thinks there is a need for backup ...

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Now I know what cha pai must be thinking after reading this thread..."saala meri site..kisiko bhi bannau.n..iske baap ka kya jaa raha hain" ...
At least these are not my thoughts ...

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now my question has never been 'kisko banao'...
Anyone who has practical suggestions and a good amount of dedication to objectively shoulder this responsibility ...

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all you moderator gang has never ever failed to impress me by your sense of judgement and dedication
Thanks ...

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but my question is how many do we need?
Sprite, you are changing your questions or is it getting to a point of some convergence?

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and if we really need 6 then for 24-hr coverage we need to have moderators from India too. And this is why I suggested aragorn's name in both last and current thread. i have been watching this guy for sometime and IMO he is fit to take up this responsibility. But even if he he included in gang then I would not support his candidature as 7th moderator. He should replace some moderator and this is the reason why I started this thread with "a leader should create more leaders..."
I dont understand what you are trying to say here ... except that we need one extra moderator from India ... rest about leader's creating leaders is all BS ... not possible in real life, let alone in the cyber world ...

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This is it...Trinity is more than required for this site.
How come 3 is a good number? if 6 and 18 were not a good number then how is 3 a good number because you are assuming that all these 3 have all the time in the world to take upon the workload of the existing 6 ... As it is, we are running with issues about Spammers (although that is not that big of an issue) ... if you wanted me to join that Trinity, I would say NO because I cant dedicate all my time to echarcha ...

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I just wanted to know how, if need be, a new moderator will be installed? addition or replacement?
simple, you can ask Bush Jr. ... We will bring democracy to IRAQ so that those folks can select a democratically elected Govt.

Sprite, what do you mean when you say "how it will be installed?" ... It feels as if the old ones are not willing to budge out of the door ...

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ofcourse who he/she will replace is not at all the question!
what do you mean by "of course"? you havent mentioned the folks who need to leave as-yet...

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In any case, this was just an exercise. I knew it right from the word go that no member including admin will agree to my blablabla. I just wanted to see the moderators reactions to this proposal and I got it
No this is my reply (not a reaction) to your ideas ... Please improvise ... something better will definetly come out of it ... The use of the word "reaction" is pretty derogatory (at least that is what it feels to me)

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In any case, if in future there is discussion amongst you guys about new addition (ofcourse with replacement) then 'aragorn' (from India) and 'chitrala' are the guyz who you can test!
There is no future, we just have the present ... Chitrala, Aragorn can you please reply ...

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@dirty- bhaiji....I know the system is working. It has worked for the past 10 years.
Then why is there a need to change?

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But innovation, as a pilot-project, can do no harm, right? Ofcourse being into IT management your managerial skills level is unparalleled when compared to me. It was just an opinion.
moderator-ship is no innovation ... this is an ONLINE FORUM ... we innovate ideas in our replies or in the threads that we create ... such innovations keep the content of the site interesting and that is what is important to any online forum ...
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WTF ...

Damn u Landya ? Who is going to read this long post
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