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Old May 14th, 2014, 01:19 PM
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Can the EVMs be manipulated? Seems like congis do not believe in exit polls

can that happen?

Congis are pointing to 2004 and 2006 exit polls and how the India Shining failed miserably?

Can the EVMs be manipulated?
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Re: Can the EVMs be manipulated? Seems like congis do not believe in exit polls

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can that happen?

Congis are pointing to 2004 and 2006 exit polls and how the India Shining failed miserably?

Can the EVMs be manipulated?
I think it's easier to manipulate voters than EVMs.
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I think it's easier to manipulate voters than EVMs.
But that was not the question. Please stick to facts. Voting is over... no more manipulation of voters. What is left is EVMs? So, can EVMs be manipulated? Answer. People of India are afraid.... very afraid.
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Re: Can the EVMs be manipulated? Seems like congis do not believe in exit polls

The EVMs have been used for many elections (since 96 or so). The Paper ballots can be manipulated more easily than EVMs. My friends in Bihar told me that laloo yadav in 91 changed the ballots which were lying in storage during a long gestation following Rajiv Gandhi's assanination. You cant do the same with EVMs

If Cong could manipulate the elections, BJP would not have won 4 elections 6 months back. They were conducted by the same EC. Any party which is shown as losing will never agree with the polls.

In this election, the disputes seem to be on many minor things. In the first elections i had voted in (89), there was large scale violence in Bihar (notably Arrah) and there was repolling in some 1000 booths*. In Amethi, Sanjay Singh was almost killed by Congis then . He was a Sanjay Gandhi buddy, then moved to JD, then JD (S), then Samta, then BJP and now is back in Cong). There were some polling officers also who got killed on duty in Bihar.
This time, they were returning from duty when attacked in Jharkhand.

* AP was at top at 500, Bihar was second then at 450 or so.
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Re: Can the EVMs be manipulated? Seems like congis do not believe in exit polls

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But that was not the question. Please stick to facts. Voting is over... no more manipulation of voters. What is left is EVMs? So, can EVMs be manipulated? Answer. People of India are afraid.... very afraid.
Somebody once said - Anything and everything can and will be manipulated at some point in time. Such is life.

What is EVM? It is just a device that personifies the human tendency to cheat. Can one be cheated? What does manipulation mean? It means deviation from perceived expectation of harmonious path. But who defines that harmonious path? We do. What if we were wrong? Then was it our mind that was manipulated to begin with or was it the outcome that was manipulated? Manipulation is nothing but a state of mind.
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Re: Can the EVMs be manipulated? Seems like congis do not believe in exit polls

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The EVMs have been used for many elections (since 96 or so). The Paper ballots can be manipulated more easily than EVMs. My friends in Bihar told me that laloo yadav in 91 changed the ballots which were lying in storage during a long gestation following Rajiv Gandhi's assanination. You cant do the same with EVMs

If Cong could manipulate the elections, BJP would not have won 4 elections 6 months back. They were conducted by the same EC. Any party which is shown as losing will never agree with the polls.

In this election, the disputes seem to be on many minor things. In the first elections i had voted in (89), there was large scale violence in Bihar (notably Arrah) and there was repolling in some 1000 booths*. In Amethi, Sanjay Singh was almost killed by Congis then . He was a Sanjay Gandhi buddy, then moved to JD, then JD (S), then Samta, then BJP and now is back in Cong). There were some polling officers also who got killed on duty in Bihar.
This time, they were returning from duty when attacked in Jharkhand.

* AP was at top at 500, Bihar was second then at 450 or so.
Interesting stuff ...
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Re: Can the EVMs be manipulated? Seems like congis do not believe in exit polls

Indira gandhi is once said to have bought special ballot papers from Russia which look blank, you fold and put it into the box, when unfolded for counting (exposed to light) they show a stamp against Congress, if you stamp these the vote gets cancelled, so was used very tactfully.
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Re: Can the EVMs be manipulated? Seems like congis do not believe in exit polls

it seems ridiculous to me to not be able to have a full-proof non-tamperable voting machine with today's technological advancement. there is some artificial power behind this debate as to whether or not it possible to have it.
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Re: Can the EVMs be manipulated? Seems like congis do not believe in exit polls

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The EVMs have been used for many elections (since 96 or so). The Paper ballots can be manipulated more easily than EVMs. My friends in Bihar told me that laloo yadav in 91 changed the ballots which were lying in storage during a long gestation following Rajiv Gandhi's assanination. You cant do the same with EVMs

If Cong could manipulate the elections, BJP would not have won 4 elections 6 months back. They were conducted by the same EC. Any party which is shown as losing will never agree with the polls.

In this election, the disputes seem to be on many minor things. In the first elections i had voted in (89), there was large scale violence in Bihar (notably Arrah) and there was repolling in some 1000 booths*. In Amethi, Sanjay Singh was almost killed by Congis then . He was a Sanjay Gandhi buddy, then moved to JD, then JD (S), then Samta, then BJP and now is back in Cong). There were some polling officers also who got killed on duty in Bihar.
This time, they were returning from duty when attacked in Jharkhand.

* AP was at top at 500, Bihar was second then at 450 or so.

A report in The Atlantic about what is good (and what is not so good) about EVMs. The report cheerily concludes:

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Although it's no panacea for poor governance or repressive regimes, this $150 device from the world's largest democracy could soon make voting easier in burgeoning democracies worldwide.

http://www.theatlantic.com/internati...chines/360554/
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Re: Can the EVMs be manipulated? Seems like congis do not believe in exit polls

EVM's can be manipulated but nobody will attempt doing so in big numbers, its not a piece of cake. And you're risking civil war if you do so, nothing less.

If congress was doing so what happened to state elections in Dec last year.. they lost all 4 states big time.

Manipulating voters and booth capturing is much easier.
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EVM fraud has taken place in less than 40 seats and more than 25 seats. But majority for NDA saved by the huge wave for Namo.
https://twitter.com/Swamy39/status/466824490383454208
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