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Old August 31st, 2017, 04:03 AM
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Apparent mistakes by BJP

These are the mistakes that are being highlighted by opposition:-
1. Gorakhpur tragedy - children are still dying there at BRD hospital. It seems YA's government has not been able to improve the situation.
2. Handling of RamRahim case. 30 plus people died.
3. Train derailments. Apparently repair work happens without notifying all concerned.

I find it hard to find any good reason for above other than carelessness. In RamRahim case BJP was just returning the favour to the accused who helped them win a few seats.

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Old August 31st, 2017, 05:33 AM
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Re: Apparent mistakes by BJP

It seems like BJP is now getting, let loose on many many such burning issues ( be it burning Kashmir, Many Muslim Syria laws ( Own laws of convenient Kitaab ) of obvious injustices, Ram-mandeer, …yada yada ) and not taking any strong action and it seems truly an egg on da face of that Modi spirit, that ppl had desired, expected, and will-ed strongly,..… !

Besides many such soorsooriyas, of negligence and ignorance, n’ many obviouses’ they could have controlled a lot better, but it seems they are not even trying to and somehow it also looks like in a ’peravi’ to just save their arses and seats. On the other hand the guys like Ram-jethmalani is way angry and upset and many work he is supporting in just anger and vengeance to – what Modi had promised about ‘Swiss Bank’s black Money getting back” and now he is not even trying a dime, for any efforts or endeavor on this issue, giving it a total rat-arse,.. and that makes (made ) him, to support Kejarimal and such hopelesses….

It’s time, BJP must wake up or they will not in apposition to make any distinguished difference between them and congress,…


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Old August 31st, 2017, 07:14 AM
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Re: Apparent mistakes by BJP

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These are the mistakes that are being highlighted by opposition:-
1. Gorakhpur tragedy - children are still dying there at BRD hospital. It seems YA's government has not been able to improve the situation.
2. Handling of RamRahim case. 30 plus people died.
3. Train derailments. Apparently repair work happens without notifying all concerned.

I find it hard to find any good reason for above other than carelessness. In RamRahim case BJP was just returning the favour to the accused who helped them win a few seats.
I Think with regard to the Gorakhpur tragedy, there is nothing new. But, yes the YA Govt. has not been able to improve the situation on ground even when it is in his home town, and also visiting there a number of times, even as his own statement.

And with regard to train derailments, I think some blame has to be taken by the BJP, since even after three years on coming into power, the BJP has not been able to improve the ground situation or at least maintain the previous one. Especially after a big debate over the amalgamation of the Railways Budget with General Budget, on the pretext that it will improve the performance of the Railways.

In the Ram-Rahim case, I think, the whole blame is of the Govt. which is in power.
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Old August 31st, 2017, 07:16 AM
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It seems like BJP is now getting, let loose on many many such burning issues ( be it burning Kashmir, Many Muslim Syria laws ( Own laws of convenient Kitaab ) of obvious injustices, Ram-mandeer, …yada yada ) and not taking any strong action and it seems truly an egg on da face of that Modi spirit, that ppl had desired, expected, and will-ed strongly,..… !

Besides many such soorsooriyas, of negligence and ignorance, n’ many obviouses’ they could have controlled a lot better, but it seems they are not even trying to and somehow it also looks like in a ’peravi’ to just save their arses and seats. On the other hand the guys like Ram-jethmalani is way angry and upset and many work he is supporting in just anger and vengeance to – what Modi had promised about ‘Swiss Bank’s black Money getting back” and now he is not even trying a dime, for any efforts or endeavor on this issue, giving it a total rat-arse,.. and that makes (made ) him, to support Kejarimal and such hopelesses….

It’s time, BJP must wake up or they will not in apposition to make any distinguished difference between them and congress,…


What do you expect when the whole BJP contingent in some states is bunch of Congress people who abandoned the Congress and shifted to the BJP, and which were gladly accepted and even encouraged by the BJP Supremo.
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Old August 31st, 2017, 07:37 AM
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What do you expect when the whole BJP contingent in some states is bunch of Congress people who abandoned the Congress and shifted to the BJP, and which were gladly accepted and even encouraged by the BJP Supremo.
Yaah ! I agree,.. Politics is a dirty game,.. and everyone just tries to stay in power, ( Khushamat toh khuda ko bhi pyaari hoti hai,.. and satta, sharab and sundari,.. everyone tempts to, no matter how hard he denies ) as a first requirement,.. Koi bhi,.... fakir ki maafik zhola le ke, chal dene ko taiyaar nahin,...like one usually says !

It's very hard to find real guys like Modi, Kalaam, Yogi and such in this field, and sorry-fact is, they have to get work done from other lakhs of cooks around ! Recent example is, they had to take Nitish back,.. and still have to keep Swami-like jaychands in the party !
I had also heard that Tharoor was almost close to get inserted into BJP and Swami strongly denied for ( w/ personal prejudice of genius-fights ) that murderer and hence post-poned ! Modi-Yogi akele kuchh nahin kar sakte,... ( no matter, how clean they are ! ) they have to keep in hand, Industrialists and many others,.. for election expense purposes ( who are funding them ) like it or not ! IMO, Modi now badly needs to deliver and keeping cap on the exaggerated speeches, as he also knows that he can not fulfill 80 percent of what he speaks and promises,.. ! Especially, when the Swiss bank action has turned to a real Big joke of da century, and no one has courage to take action on fake Gandhis ! !


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Old August 31st, 2017, 12:18 PM
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Handling of RamRahim case. 30 plus people died.
I don't think so. Police did some mistakes, like first letting situation out of hand, then they started shooting the rioters indiscriminately.

No media house said that all 30 who died were rioters, not one person living in sector 5 and other of Panchkula died. My relative lives around that area and was very worried about his huge bungalow, family, etc.. but was praising the Haryana govt.
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I don't think so. Police did some mistakes, like first letting situation out of hand, then they started shooting the rioters indiscriminately.

No media house said that all 30 who died were rioters, not one person living in sector 5 and other of Panchkula died. My relative lives around that area and was very worried about his huge bungalow, family, etc.. but was praising the Haryana govt.
To some extent that may be true, and lets not forget that the very person who praises someone if he is unharmed, will also be the first one to blame the people he is praising now, if anything happens to him.

So I think it cannot be judged by one instance or two. But we are also not supposed to forget that it was contained to the larger extent, otherwise the casualties would have been far more than actually happened.
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Re: Apparent mistakes by BJP

Now, this is what was amusing me in 2012 and 13. People were expecting Modi to solve all of problems in one go. And I also found some expectations odd like hiking up rupee to 20 rupees to a dollar. I also pointed out sometimes those days here that Gujarat model is older than Modi. Though he seems to have made it work better.
It is only when I visited narendramodi.in and checked his tweets, which were more about vision and direction and sounded credible that I differentiated leader from his supporters.

To expect that all the problems due to carelessness will disappear is unrealistic. Question is whether they have reduced.

And in Yogi's case, he actually foresaw the problem and checked on the hospital a week before the tragedy. And it seems the hospital management hid the oxygen cylinder problem from him.

One past problem where a BJP govt really messed up due to lack of experience was IC814 hijack in 99. If they had let Punjab commandos do the job instead of waiting for NSG, we may have seen less terror.
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One past problem where a BJP govt really messed up due to lack of experience was IC814 hijack in 99. If they had let Punjab commandos do the job instead of waiting for NSG, we may have seen less terror.
Agreed but I recall the families were pushed by Congress support to protest in front of Vajpayee's (PM) house. BJP was facing allies pressure as well to cave in to the demands.

I don't agree with the Kashmir mess claimed by log pai. In fact, the aggressive pursuit of terrorists and jihadis is beginning to show results. Also, Modi instructed Sri Sri to work with stone pelters and such misguided youth to bring them into mainstream.. I know somebody who is volunteering in this team. LINK
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The whole thing is,….

for a person like Modi, ppl are really, really counting on him, and hence the expectation goes haywire,… as they all know, that in last 65+ yrs he is the one and d ONLEE first prime minister we’ve got with that daring, courage, jigara, clean-by-heart and foreign-friendships, and a neat-clean good image,..
and hence they expect him a lot more from him,.. to show some more real spine and muscles, fearlessly,…. !

He did a little of commando surgical strike,.. but that’s not enuff and he can not dine on it, forever. He got that daring and he can do a lot more,.. Even Bajpeyi was also an ideal guy but he was wimp in certain area, that after Sansad bhavan attack, he did not fire a single missile towards Pakistan, and had apologized IG those times, in trade of going to jail,.. !

Unfortunately, the financial surgical strike did not got that success,.. bad luck of him, as more cows came home than expected,…. Just, his bad luck..

Modi has cleared the one part and that is,… before the people had fear,… that this guy will be another Hitler, and will go harsh on Muslims, may engage the nation at foreign haphazard wars and what not ! and will turnout to be an another Mussolini and Stalin,…

But that part is now clear, as with the aid of social media of TV, net , and so many lectures, people have found themselves totally wrong, and have now knew him, what kinda person he actually is,.. and that’s is also a reason that Nitish came beck once he knew, there had a mistake in knowing him,… just like many other countrymen.

But, now ppl also expect Modi to solve certain things with total just and fair way and without any fear,… with real courage and fearless daring,. the burning problems,.. and DO it without fear, as Janata-Janardan is with him, and now they all,. know the difference of valley ( which is very large ) between him and rest all others evil party-mafias like Lalu, Keju, Pappu-Sonia, Owaishi, Yadav and other all goon-gang parties, around..

All I would say is,...... Go Modi Go,.. show some spine and muscles,..... Light is green 4 ya,....... ppl R' expecting from ya 2 deliver,..,..... n' ppl are wid ya !



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Unfortunately, the financial surgical strike did not got that success,.. bad luck of him, as more cows came home than expected,…. Just, his bad luck.
says who? All the banks there were made to go bankrupt have good cash flow for years to come. UPA let the state banks collect big NPAs, to the tune that thousands of govt employees working in these banks would have lost jobs.

Don't listen to Chidu .. the bank started by his maternal grandfather (Indian overseas bank) now owned by Indian govt. is so happy with demonetization.
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I mean, I agree certain good things have happened,… and most important is,… All the Money which were in parallel stream,.. came back to the Main stream. Before demonetization , currency was part of parallel economy ,after it , became part of main stream economy.
Only this one success is enough !! agree. But,… who cares about the Bank’s cash flow? It’s like a ship in da dockyard,.. sure it’s safe, but that was not it meant for ?

Plus, still many aam-janta and Mango men do not understand that 99% cows came back home…? OMFG ! How ? means there was no jaali notes, no hidden currencies of persons who died un-declaring, sewing in mattresses and walls,… and more importantly other at least 20 percent of black money the mango-man wee tempting, that BMers will never dare to deposit and that would be the gain,….. for all hassle and headache of months standing in the queue , n’ will be paid off,.. but nothing such happened ! Uh ! Dunn’o why and how ?



^ This is just too much,.. its like throwing a baggage of sand-particle bunches from sky, and 10 yrs later collecting and counting every sand particles from the earth's face,.... and still it came to almost nearly, the exact amount of sand particles which were dropped !! 15% at least loss, could easily be expected,....
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Hope it's clear to log Jani now..

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To expect that all the problems due to carelessness will disappear is unrealistic. Question is whether they have reduced.

And in Yogi's case, he actually foresaw the problem and checked on the hospital a week before the tragedy. And it seems the hospital management hid the oxygen cylinder problem from him.
My take is that such an important thing should not be in hands of humans. Payment of oxygen cylinders not happening and supply stopping due to that is unpardonable. Since it is a government hospital, government is responsible for this somewhere.

Even after this tragedy, children are dying even now due to encephalitis. And number is not small. It is sad and shameful. Should be brought under control asap.

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Head doctor was stealing oxygen cylinders to his private clinic. Payment was late but company didn't stop supplying. Govt should close their hospitals and only partly own things.
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