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Old August 17th, 2015, 02:15 AM
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Gorakhpur youth shows his true colours

As the nation celebrated Independence Day on Saturday, two incidents that hurt the country's pride were reported from Uttar Pradesh. Subsequently, the police detained a youth for showing disrespect to the national flag.
In Gorakhpur, a youth not only unfurled the Pakistani flag in front of his house but also showed disregard to the Tricolour. Police detained Afroz Ansari after he spread the Tricolour on the ground and placed a chair on it to stand up and unfurl Pakistan's flag. Later, he also posted his picture on a social website. However, his father Shaukat Ali tendered an apology and said, "We are true nationalists. My son is immature and unable to differentiate right from wrong. I feel ashamed of his act and apologise to everybody for what he did."
In another case, a madrasa in Muradnagar area of Ghaziabad decided to sing Allama Iqbal's "Sare Jahan Se Achcha Hindustan Hamara" instead of Rabindranath Tagore's "Jana Gana Mana Adhinayak Jaya He."
While there was no issue till the Tricolour was hoisted and unfurled, manager of Noorpur Madrasa Darul Uloom Shadia Qari Khalil Ahmad suddenly stopped the students from singing "Jana Gana Mana." and asked them to sing "Sare Jahan Se Achcha‚" He reportedly told the students that the national anthem was completely against the ethics of the madrasa. Thereafter, he asked the students to sing Iqbal's poem. When asked, Ahmad told newspersons, "Sare Jahan Se Achcha is also a patriotic song and I don't see any problem is singing it in course of the Independence Day function," he argued.
While Iqbal was a celebrated Urdu poet, he is also remembered as one who had pushed for the idea of carving a separate country out of India way back in 1930.


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Indian Muslims have problem with almost anything Indian. Some who are smart and mature keep their mouth shut about their real feelings. Their whole culture doesn't promote patriotism at all.

Many years ago, I recall this argument with a family friend rop desi at a weekend potluck dinner over Kashmir, and this guy hails from Mumbai. He is heavily on the side of separatists, no surprise , but he actually said that "you Indians don't know half the thing about Kashmir". That potluck ended on a very sour note, needless to say everybody broke off contact with that family altogether.

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Don't know it's relevant or not But most people don't understand difference between Flag of Pakistan and Flag of Islam used in Indian subcontinent and it often flare up emotions. A completely green flag with crescent moon and a star is the flag of Islam in south Asia, Just like Saffron flag is that of Hinduism, since Pakistan was created by Indian Muslims Their flag been broadly based upon same flag, But it has a white strip on left side.

Hoisting flag of your religion is not a crime But hoisting flag on an enemy state is.

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Don't know it's relevant or not But most people don't understand difference between Flag of Pakistan and Flag of Islam used in Indian subcontinent and it often flare up emotions. A completely green flag with crescent moon and a star is the flag of Islam in south Asia, Just like Saffron flag is that of Hinduism, since Pakistan was created by Indian Muslims Their flag been broadly based upon same flag, But it has a white strip on left side.

Hoisting flag of your religion is not a crime But hoisting flag on an enemy state is.

Just thought it's worthy for people to know.
in this case yahoo news is saying that the youth unfurled a pakistani flag , not islamic flag .
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in this case yahoo news is saying that the youth unfurled a pakistani flag , not islamic flag .
I wasn't saying that. But it has happened at times.
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Indian Muslims have problem with almost anything Indian. Some who are smart and mature keep their mouth shut about their real feelings. Their whole culture doesn't promote patriotism at all.

Many years ago, I recall this argument with a family friend rop desi at a weekend potluck dinner over Kashmir, and this guy hails from Mumbai. He is heavily on the side of separatists, no surprise , but he actually said that "you Indians don't know half the thing about Kashmir". That potluck ended on a very sour note, needless to say everybody broke off contact with that family altogether.
Which time zone are you in? You are up early.

Tagore/ Iqbal must be rolling in their graves when they hear of people fighting over which song should be sung during flag hoisting. Completely defeats the purpose of flag hoisting. I think it's been so long since we got independence that we don't seem to appreciate it anymore. Ask people of Syria how they feel about Independance and it may put things into perspective for everyone that take Independance and the Independance day for granted.
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Don't know it's relevant or not But most people don't understand difference between Flag of Pakistan and Flag of Islam used in Indian subcontinent and it often flare up emotions. A completely green flag with crescent moon and a star is the flag of Islam in south Asia, Just like Saffron flag is that of Hinduism, since Pakistan was created by Indian Muslims Their flag been broadly based upon same flag, But it has a white strip on left side.

Hoisting flag of your religion is not a crime But hoisting flag on an enemy state is.

Just thought it's worthy for people to know.
You are right because when my son came back from India , he said everyone had pakistan flag up. Green, Moon, that's what it looks like. But on flip side of argument, what is wrong with flag of Pakistan ? When did we declare war on Pakistan ? How is pakistan an enemy state ?
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You are right because when my son came back from India , he said everyone had pakistan flag up. Green, Moon, that's what it looks like. But on flip side of argument, what is wrong with flag of Pakistan ? When did we declare war on Pakistan ? How is pakistan an enemy state ?
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Hindu man also disrespects national flag


BAREILLY: In a strange incident, a primary school teacher reportedly brought down the national flag during recently held Independence Day celebrations and trampled it under his feet leaving onlookers surprised and puzzled.

Ram Asrey Yadav, teacher at Poorva Madhyamik Vidyalaya, Chaudera, arrived with another man on a motorcycle for I-Day celebrations at the school. In a spur of moment, he grabbed the string used to hoist the flag and brought it down. Before fellow teachers could react, he fled from the spot even as those present tried to catch hold of him.

The matter was immediately brought to the notice of Basic Shiksha Adhikari (BSA) officials and a complaint filed at Ram Chandra Mission police station by the school's principal.

Talking to TOI, BSA, Shahjhanapur, Rajesh Kumar said "It is a serious matter. We have ordered for a suspension of the teacher and a complaint against him has been filed at the local police station."

He added that several other complaints against Asrey have earlier been received and he has been reprimanded on several occasions.

Meanwhile, in-charge, Ram Chandra Mission police station, N D Pathak, said, "The teacher was arrested on Monday under the provisions of The Prevention of Insults to National flag Act 1971 under which "Whoever in any public place or in any other place within public view burns, mutilates, defaces, defiles, disfigures, destroys, tramples upon or *otherwise shows disrespect to or brings into contempt (whether by words, either spoken or written, or by acts) the Indian National Flag or the Constitution of India or any part thereof, shall be punished with imprisonment for a term which may extend to three years, or with fine, or with both."

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/c...w/48518244.cms
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This is what happens when you order shutting of liquor shops on national holidays. In the west they prohibit sale of liquor only on Sunday from morning uptil noon.
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