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Re: What is success

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I'm not someone whose words you wud take here as i myself am striving for success! But if someone asks me what type of success you would prefer, I would go for the 'Helen Keller' type!
Maybe you prefer the 'Helen Keller' dance moves too
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For most people success means fame (maybe for me too!). But i think this quote from somebody i read the other day (dont know who.....) perfectly describes what success should really be all about : -

"Dont confuse fame with success. Madonna is one; Helen Keller the other"

I'm not someone whose words you wud take here as i myself am striving for success! But if someone asks me what type of success you would prefer, I would go for the 'Helen Keller' type!

If success is fame then it is perception. I don't see much difference between Madonna and Keller. There might be thousand of Kellers out there overcoming their disabilities and leading life with dignity but still going unnoticed as they haven't caught limelight like Keller.

Don't get me wrong, I am not undermining Keller but part of her greatness lies in the fact that we know about her. No one gives a damn what other thinks about themselves. If it doesn't show it ain't success.
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Re: What is success

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"Dont confuse fame with success. Madonna is one; Helen Keller the other"

I'm not someone whose words you wud take here as i myself am striving for success! But if someone asks me what type of success you would prefer, I would go for the 'Helen Keller' type!
ye kaisa re? Madonna and helen keler both are famous. if you had said madonna and mere baju ka daily needs shop chalane wala hiten, to it was different.

kylie minogue overcoming breast cancer - that is success.
mere uncle ke ghar mein chapati banane wali bai ka beta abhi wipro mein software engineer hai. he bought a flat in pune last year - that is success
Rajashree over coming facial paralysis - that is success
mere class mein mere desk pe baithane wala banda, went on to study IIT/IIM. He bought a maruti zen for his father in his first salary - that is success.
Another person from my college is now working on postgres. he addresses their joint worldwide conferences and has over 10 patents to his name - that is success
druggie, suicidal, as good as orphan boy fighting family calamity after calamity, is now a TV star - that is success

I am just living a series of adjustments and compromises.
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Re: What is success

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kylie minogue overcoming breast cancer - that is success.
Over coming cancer surely is a success.
mere uncle ke ghar mein chapati banane wali bai ka beta abhi wipro mein software engineer hai. he bought a flat in pune last year - that is success
He worked hard for it, so i think this is also a success.
Rajashree over coming facial paralysis - that is success
mere class mein mere desk pe baithane wala banda, went on to study IIT/IIM. He bought a maruti zen for his father in his first salary - that is success.
IIT/IIM's are really difficult to get into. He must have really worked hard. so this is also a success.
Another person from my college is now working on postgres. he addresses their joint worldwide conferences and has over 10 patents to his name - that is success
Sure it is.
druggie, suicidal, as good as orphan boy fighting family calamity after calamity, is now a TV star - that is success
This, I don't agree. Its like saying that Abhishek Bachan is a success. No he is not. He is in films because of his dad.
I am just living a series of adjustments and compromises.
Financial compromises, yes. But personal compromises? No.
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Financial compromises, yes. But personal compromises? No.
I am not sure what you mean by that, but if you mean what I think you mean, we all do personal compromises all along. I also think financial contraints is the root of personal compromises most of the times.
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I am not sure what you mean by that, but if you mean what I think you mean, we all do personal compromises all along. I also think financial contraints is the root of personal compromises most of the times.
Success is Lance Armstrong... You need balls to overcome such handicap and he hadn't many.
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ye kaisa re? Madonna and helen keler both are famous. if you had said madonna and mere baju ka daily needs shop chalane wala hiten, to it was different.

kylie minogue overcoming breast cancer - that is success.
mere uncle ke ghar mein chapati banane wali bai ka beta abhi wipro mein software engineer hai. he bought a flat in pune last year - that is success
Rajashree over coming facial paralysis - that is success
mere class mein mere desk pe baithane wala banda, went on to study IIT/IIM. He bought a maruti zen for his father in his first salary - that is success.
Another person from my college is now working on postgres. he addresses their joint worldwide conferences and has over 10 patents to his name - that is success
druggie, suicidal, as good as orphan boy fighting family calamity after calamity, is now a TV star - that is success

I am just living a series of adjustments and compromises.

KKKKji (waise iska full form kya hai ) success, according to me, is what u achieve out of sheer hardwork and will. Abhi apne yahaan pe bahut sare eg. diye hai. Yes all of them may be called a 'success'. Agar apka baju wala ladka iit me jaana chahta tha and he did whatever was required to achieve it, then it is clearly a 'success'. But winning a lottery is no 'success' to me! Its sheer luck. It'll fade away!

I just quoted somebody when i said Helen Keller was 'success' and Madonna 'fame'. Madonna maybe a success but not as grand a 'success' as Helen who continuously strove through hardships to acquire 'success'.

Abhi aap keh sakte hain ki 'Madonna' is the greater 'success' story. As Chitrapai said its ur perspective, but for me someone like 'Helen Keller' would always rank high!
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Re: What is success

acc to me success is exactly as dictionary.com defines it.. the favorable or prosperous termination of attempts or endeavors.

Of course, success is as much about the journey as the destination. So be happy along the way and not just base it on the end result. Lola Kutty once said "yegspeerianz is oll you get when you dont get wot you wont."
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I am not sure what you mean by that, but if you mean what I think you mean, we all do personal compromises all along. I also think financial contraints is the root of personal compromises most of the times.

It totally depends on what your priorities are. For example, if I had married a guy like Rahul Mahajan, I would have got a chance to travel business class all the time, live in a palace, buy tons of jewelry etc etc.
But, back of my mind I know I am with a drug-addict, perhaps physically abusive husband, prone to extra marital affairs etc etc. All these will be the compromises i will be making for money.
Even if the guy is super good (Sachin as an example), more than half the time he is not at home. So, what is my proirity here? Money or a loving husband who can actually spend time with me? neither of the choices are wrong. They just are different.

Same thing other way round for you.
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KKKKji (waise iska full form kya hai ) success, according to me, is what u achieve out of sheer hardwork and will. Abhi apne yahaan pe bahut sare eg. diye hai. Yes all of them may be called a 'success'. Agar apka baju wala ladka iit me jaana chahta tha and he did whatever was required to achieve it, then it is clearly a 'success'. But winning a lottery is no 'success' to me! Its sheer luck. It'll fade away!

I just quoted somebody when i said Helen Keller was 'success' and Madonna 'fame'. Madonna maybe a success but not as grand a 'success' as Helen who continuously strove through hardships to acquire 'success'.

Abhi aap keh sakte hain ki 'Madonna' is the greater 'success' story. As Chitrapai said its ur perspective, but for me someone like 'Helen Keller' would always rank high!
KKKK doesnt have any long form. Its just a finger in the air user id. Its another adjustment in the long list in my life. I wanted KK, but ec wouldnt allow it.

Mere baju wala banda wanted to go to IIT. his is definite success.

I wanted to go to IIT, but couldnt. I dont think its a failure (because there were reasons beyond my control), but its not a success for sure. I wanted to go for a US based MS course, couldnt do it, again because of reasons beyond my control - again I dont think this is failure, but am sure it is miles away from success.

I dont agree having luck is not success. Luck forms an integral part of success. Without luck, without being in the right place at the right time, success doesnt make an appearance. Right from which family, which religion, which country one is born in, to one's country getting over-run by taliban or attacked by US is a part of luck. I think a person winning a lottery is successful too. He/she has gone in and bought the lottery, trusted luck, hoped for the best - admittedly the efforts he/she has put in are much much less than someone like Dhirubhai ambani put in, at the end of the day, the lottery person has less worries than I have...
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KKKK doesnt have any long form. Its just a finger in the air user id. Its another adjustment in the long list in my life. I wanted KK, but ec wouldnt allow it.

Thats good to know. I thought it would be something like Krishnamacharya Kapoor Kanchipuram Kokli wale!

I dont agree having luck is not success. Luck forms an integral part of success. Without luck, without being in the right place at the right time, success doesnt make an appearance. Right from which family, which religion, which country one is born in, to one's country getting over-run by taliban or attacked by US is a part of luck. I think a person winning a lottery is successful too. He/she has gone in and bought the lottery, trusted luck, hoped for the best - admittedly the efforts he/she has put in are much much less than someone like Dhirubhai ambani put in, at the end of the day, the lottery person has less worries than I have...

Yes, u need luck to succeed. I bet apke baju wale ladke ka luck uske saath tha jab woh JEE paper likh raha tha. But success is not all luck or is it! You said Rahul Mahajan is a success. Well I think he's lucky that he was born in a family of a politician but he sure as hell is no 'success'! Ladies are after him cause they want to air themselves on TV (publicity ke liye) warne ek drug addict ke saath kaun si ladki shaadi karna chahegi.
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arre yarr, bottom line kya hai? does he have to worry about his marriage? nahi...
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Success is Lance Armstrong... You need balls to overcome such handicap and he hadn't many.
Steroids will do that to you!!
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Success is something you are willing to achieve for yourselves .
On a personal front you have encountered failure say for you going to IIT or for MS. As life moves on there are more challenges , say now your kid or securing their future . If you get them what you need you can call it success too .
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Re: What is success

Depends on an individual's definition of success.... no?

Keeping RaniRajabhai's 'failure' thread in context ... failures are easily contented to they get to enjoy success ... more than those are thought to be successful.

Successful fear the failure. Failures have no such fears.

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