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Old June 26th, 2003, 10:01 AM
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Hello Every one I am back after a long break, India and Europe was lot of fun...


The following is an interesting and humorous conversation between a "smart" dad and his "innocent" son. Enjoy it!

Q: Daddy, why did we have to attack Iraq?
A: Because they had weapons of mass destruction, honey.

Q: But the inspectors didn't find any weapons of mass destruction.
A: That's because the Iraqis were hiding them.

Q: And that's why we invaded Iraq?
A: Yep. Invasions always work better than inspections.

Q: But after we invaded them, we STILL didn't find any weapons of mass
destruction, did we?
A: That's because the weapons are so well hidden. Don't worry, we'll
find something, probably right before the 2004 election.

Q: Why did Iraq want all those weapons of mass destruction?
A: To use them in a war, silly.

Q: I'm confused. If they had all those weapons that they planned to use
in a war, then why didn't they use any of those weapons when we went to
war with them?
A: Well, obviously they didn't want anyone to know they had those
weapons, so they chose to die by the thousands rather than defend
themselves.

Q: That doesn't make sense Daddy. Why would they choose to die if they
had all those big weapons to fight us back with?
A: It's a different culture. It's not supposed to make sense.

Q: I don't know about you, but I don't think they had any of those
weapons our government said they did.
A: Well, you know, it doesn't matter whether or not they had those
weapons. We had another good reason to invade them anyway.

Q: And what was that?
A: Even if Iraq didn't have weapons of mass destruction, Saddam Hussein
was a cruel dictator, which is another good reason to invade another
country.

Q: Why? What does a cruel dictator do that makes it OK to invade his
country?
A: Well, for one thing, he tortured his own people.

Q: Kind of like what they do in China?
A: Don't go comparing China to Iraq. China is a good economic
competitor where millions of people work for slave wages in sweatshops to make
U.S. corporations richer.

Q: So if a country lets its people be exploited for American corporate
gain, it's a good country, even if that country tortures people?
A: Right.

Q: Why were people in Iraq being tortured?
A: For political crimes, mostly, like criticizing the government.
People who criticized the government in Iraq were sent to prison and tortured.

Q: Isn't that exactly what happens in China?
A: I told you, China is different.

Q: What's the difference between China and Iraq?
A: Well, for one thing, Iraq was ruled by the Ba'ath party, while China
is Communist.

Q: Didn't you once tell me Communists were bad?
A: No, just Cuban Communists are bad.

Q: How are the Cuban Communists bad?
A: Well, for one thing, people who criticize the government in Cuba are
sent to prison and tortured.

Q: Like in Iraq?
A: Exactly.

Q: And like in China, too?
A: I told you, China's a good economic competitor. Cuba, on the other
hand, is not.

Q: How come Cuba isn't a good economic competitor?
A: Well, you see, back in the early 1960s, our government passed some
laws that made it illegal for Americans to trade or do any business
with Cuba until they stopped being Communists and started being capitalists
like us.

Q: But if we got rid of those laws, opened up trade with Cuba, and
started doing business with them, wouldn't that help the Cubans become
capitalists?
A: Don't be a smart-ass.

Q: I didn't think I was being one.
A: Well, anyway, they also don't have freedom of religion in Cuba.

Q: Kind of like China and the Falun Gong movement?
A: I told you, stop saying bad things about China. Anyway, Saddam
Hussein came to power through a military coup, so he's not really a legitimate
leader anyway.

Q: What's a military coup?
A: That's when a military general takes over the government of a
country by force, instead of holding free elections like we do in the United
States.

Q: Didn't the ruler of Pakistan come to power by a military coup?
A: You mean General Pervez Musharraf? Uh, yeah, he did, but Pakistan is
our friend.

Q: Why is Pakistan our friend if their leader is illegitimate?
A: I never said Pervez Musharraf was illegitimate.

Q: Didn't you just say a military general who comes to power by
forcibly overthrowing the legitimate government of a nation is an illegitimate
leader?
A: Only Saddam Hussein. Pervez Musharraf is our friend, because he
helped us invade Afghanistan.

Q: Why did we invade Afghanistan?
A: Because of what they did to us on September 11th.

Q: What did Afghanistan do to us on September 11th?
A: Well, on September 11th, nineteen men, fifteen of them Saudi
Arabians hijacked four airplanes and flew three of them into buildings, killing
over 3,000 Americans.

Q: So how did Afghanistan figure into all that?
A: Afghanistan was where those bad men trained, under the oppressive
rule of the Taliban.

Q: Aren't the Taliban those bad radical Islamics who chopped off
people's heads and hands?
A: Yes, that's exactly who they were. Not only did they chop off
people's heads and hands, but they oppressed women, too.

Q: Didn't the Bush administration give the Taliban 43 million dollars back in May of 2001?
A: Yes, but that money was a reward because they did such a good job
fighting drugs.

Q: Fighting drugs?
A: Yes, the Taliban were very helpful in stopping people from growing
opium poppies.

Q: How did they do such a good job?
A: Simple. If people were caught growing opium poppies, the Taliban
would have their hands and heads cut off.

Q: So, when the Taliban cut off people's heads and hands for growing
flowers, that was OK, but not if they cut people's heads and hands off
for other reasons?
A: Yes. It's OK with us if radical Islamic fundamentalists cut off
people's hands for growing flowers, but it's cruel if they cut off
people's hands for stealing bread.

Q: Don't they also cut off people's hands and heads in Saudi Arabia?
A: That's different. Afghanistan was ruled by a tyrannical patriarchy
that oppressed women and forced them to wear burqas whenever they were
in public, with death by stoning as the penalty for women who did not
comply.

Q: Don't Saudi women have to wear burqas in public, too?
A: No, Saudi women merely wear a traditional Islamic body covering.

Q: What's the difference?
A: The traditional Islamic covering worn by Saudi women is a modest yet
fashionable garment that covers all of a woman's body except for her
eyes and fingers. The burqa, on the other hand, is an evil tool of
Patriarchal oppression that covers all of a woman's body except for her
eyes and fingers.

Q: It sounds like the same thing with a different name.
A: Now, don't go comparing Afghanistan and Saudi Arabia. The Saudis are
our friends.

Q: But I thought you said 15 of the 19 hijackers on September 11th were
from Saudi Arabia.
A: Yes, but they trained in Afghanistan.

Q: Who trained them?
A: A very bad man named Osama bin Laden.

Q: Was he from Afghanistan?
A: Uh, no, he was from Saudi Arabia too. But he was a bad man, a very
bad man.

Q: I seem to recall he was our friend once.
A: Only when we helped him and the mujahadeen repel the Soviet invasion
of Afghanistan back in the 1980s.

Q: Who are the Soviets? Was that the Evil Communist Empire Ronald
Reagan talked about?
A: There are no more Soviets. The Soviet Union broke up in 1990 or
thereabouts, and now they have elections and capitalism like us. We
call them Russians now.

Q: So the Soviets, I mean the Russians, are now our friends?
A: Well, not really. You see, they were our friends for many years
after they stopped being Soviets, but then they decided not to support our
invasion of Iraq, so we're mad at them now. We're also mad at the
French and the Germans because they didn't help us invade Iraq either.

Q: So the French and Germans are evil, too?
A: Not exactly evil, but just bad enough that we had to rename French
fries and French toast to Freedom Fries and Freedom Toast.

Q: Do we always rename foods whenever another country doesn't do what
we want them to do?
A: No, we just do that to our friends. Our enemies, we invade.

Q: But wasn't Iraq one of our friends back in the 1980s?
A: Well, yeah. For a while.

Q: Was Saddam Hussein ruler of Iraq back then?
A: Yes, but at the time he was fighting against Iran, which made him
our friend, temporarily.

Q: Why did that make him our friend?
A: Because at that time, Iran was our enemy.

Q: Isn't that when he gassed the Kurds?
A: Yeah, but since he was fighting against Iran at the time, we looked
the other way, to show him we were his friend.

Q: So anyone who fights against one of our enemies automatically
becomes our friend?
A: Most of the time, yes.

Q: And anyone who fights against one of our friends is automatically an enemy?
A: Sometimes true, however, if American corporations can profit by selling weapons to both sides at the same time, all the
better.

Q: Why?
A: Because war is good for the economy, which means war is good for
America. Also, since God is on America's side, anyone who opposes war
is a godless un-American Communist. Do you understand now why we attacked
Iraq?

Q: I think so. We attacked them because God wanted us to, right?
A: Yes.

Q: But how did we know God wanted us to attack Iraq?
A: Well, you see, God personally speaks to George W. Bush and tells him
what to do.

Q: So basically, what you're saying is that we attacked Iraq because
George W. Bush hears voices in his head?
A. Yes! You finally understand how the world works. Now close your
eyes, make yourself comfortable, and go to sleep. Good night.

Good night, Daddy.
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Old June 26th, 2003, 10:03 AM
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Hi F_P

Yes we were missing you.. Atleast I did.. Hope your trip was fun and your family was happy to see you and your newborn baby..

Aur yeh kya.. Aatey hi phir se purana WAR topic shuru??
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Old June 26th, 2003, 10:13 AM
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good one F_P pai.

F_P pai.. planning to change your name from Freedom Peace to French Peace?
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Old June 26th, 2003, 10:24 AM
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good one F_P pai.

F_P pai.. planning to change your name from Freedom Peace to French Peace?
Life has totally changed after becoming dad.... I always hated killings and murder... I dont even watch news anymore...Haven't seen any damn news in last few months...as we all now discover its all BS... false propaganda for self gratifacation...

I dont even listen to BBC/NPR.. nothing...anyways its all lies, so why bother....

Sunit Pai, no more fighting with you either... India was awesome, famile friends and good dhaba food :-). And one few days in Mecca/Medina was like jannat...What a beautiful experience.
now dont you be inciting me about wars etc....leave me out of it.
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Old June 26th, 2003, 10:27 AM
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And one few days in Mecca/Medina was like jannat...What a beautiful experience.
FP Pai, Myself and my e-Aapa Super-G too want to see Jannat... Could you please explain how it was? No kidding here bro... I am serious
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Life has totally changed after becoming dad.... I always hated killings and murder... I dont even watch news anymore...Haven't seen any damn news in last few months...as we all now discover its all BS... false propaganda for self gratifacation...
Yes pai.. once children come into our lives its too much fun and we forget everything. I was a total bindaas before my kids were born but after, except matters relating to the kids and family I am even MORE bindaas.. duniyaa gyii bhaad me.. I am too busy untangling my son's fingers from my long pony tail to worry about duniyaa...
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I have stopped watching news

for some time now. Unless I am channel surfing and catch a glimpse of something...

Well I think its a overdose period for me. I mean there was Iraq war and then Laci Peterson. I got so bored that every channle was pumping so much about Laic Peterson.. I feel sad for her, but the news feed was too much. I know spend more time talking with Shama (and sometimes her ears ache and she turns on the TV ) and reading some other stuff.
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Old June 26th, 2003, 10:36 AM
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FP Pai, Myself and my e-Aapa Super-G too want to see Jannat... Could you please explain how it was? No kidding here bro... I am serious
One can feel it but cannot explain it ... I am serious too.
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Old June 26th, 2003, 10:46 AM
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One can feel it but cannot explain it ... I am serious too.
oh itz that complicated.. then leave it... thought it was explainable..
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Sunit Pai, no more fighting with you either... ..
shizit!!
mera popcorn ka dhaandeY ka vaat laga diyaaa.

Anyway, welcome back French_piss pai.

I am glad to know that u had a wonderful time back in the motherland.
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I never had a problem with F_P

to begin with.. Yeah.. our views dont match but that what debate is all about.

Aur raha tera popcorn.. Koi tension nahin yaar.. koi na koi naya bakheda aa hi jayega ec par..
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Hello Every one I am back after a long break, India and Europe was lot of fun...
welcome back...freedum peas
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shizit!!
mera popcorn ka dhaandeY ka vaat laga diyaaa.

Anyway, welcome back French_piss pai.

I am glad to know that u had a wonderful time back in the motherland.
Isn't French_Kiss the more appr..
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didu mean Free dum peas
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