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Old October 3rd, 2008, 03:06 PM
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India's outsourcing bubble is bursting


i was expacting rally in indian market, after 2 great news..bailout package and nuke deal....but market rallies just opposit...terrible time for outsource industry & world market...
India's outsourcing bubble is bursting
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Bangalore, India--Once a high-flying tech hub, Bangalore is seeing more sober days in the wake of the credit crisis.

It looks like the global economic turmoil and the dramatic Wall Street meltdown is beginning to hit Bangalore.

Until recently, in India's outsourcing hub it used to be one big Googlefest, with all the pampering and cosseting that employees enjoy at the company's Googleplex headquarters in Silicon Valley. I don't know what the latest from Googleplex is. But in Bangalore, it sure looks like the party is slowing down.

The first sign is in real estate. In a city where residential communities like Silver Manor, Golden Enclave and Platinum City sprouted to house thousands of young, upwardly mobile technology workers, instead of 200 million-rupee homes, developers are now beginning to market 2 million-rupee condominiums.

Departmental stores sport 'sale' signs every other week as credit-card-happy tech workers are cooling off consumption. In India's top management schools, including the Bangalore branch of the Indian Institute of Management, technology outsourcing firms, multinationals and Wall Street banks used to slug it out for Day Zero spots during Placement Week. For students in the graduating class, that exercise is months away. But the schools are already planning to offset an expected slowdown in placements by inviting more companies.

The collapse of top US financial firms will cause a dramatic slowdown in hiring among outsourcing companies. The banking, financial services and insurance sectors account for 40 per cent of revenues for India's $52 billion outsourcing industry (as of 2007-2008).

Firms such as now-bankrupt Lehman Brothers and bought-out Merrill Lynch were big customers and provided millions of dollars worth of lucrative contracts to Indian technology services companies.

Consequently, in the past home-grown Indian outsourcing companies grew by impressive numbers. Infosys and Wipro, the big two employers in Bangalore, were each hiring 10,000 employees or more during recent years. Such spectacular ramp-ups are unlikely to recur any time soon. One large call centre with European and US customers is now refusing to hire anybody that does not stay within a five-mile radius of their centers: the costs are just too high.

For tech employees, jobs no longer come with a lifetime guarantee. Companies are shedding people in small numbers and keeping their actions under the radar. The dreaded pink slips have arrived in Bangalore.

The biggest indicator of the slowdown is the salaries and raises. It used to be acceptable to have lateral hires ask and get 30 per cent increases on their previous salaries. Annual hikes have varied between 15 to 40 per cent in the good years. All that is now a thing of the past. Wage increases are now down to more realistic, single-digit numbers.

A Bangalore-based headhunter whose job used to be hunting down and luring top managers at outsourcing firms with juicy offers from rivals says the role is reversed. She is the one who is now hounded by anxious managers looking to check out the job market. To survive the slowdown, outsourcing companies will have to learn to be thrifty. The successful ones have already been doing this. At Wipro, legend has it that chairman Azim Premji would ask that toilet paper be rationed, and insist employees switch off lights and air conditioners when leaving a room.

In fact, Premji, one of India's richest men by virtue of his share in Wipro, apparently practices frugality to the extent that he orders 'by-two' samosas in the office café. 'By-two' is a famous local habit, quickly adopted by newcomers, of splitting one order of anything (coffee to soup) between two people to save on costs.

More such prudence will become commonplace as businesses weather the economic storm.

It may not all be bad news, though.

Some outsourcing companies see a bright lining to the cloud--lower attrition rates. In the last few years, Bangalore firms have averaged attrition rates between 20 to 40 per cent, the highest in any Indian city. The head of the business process outsourcing unit of Wipro once told me the unit churned its entire workforce every four years or so. If attrition rates were in the low two-digits, that used to be a talking and selling point for the company. Expect this to become the norm in future. Indian outsourcers may also be able to prospect for gold amid the rubble of the collapsed Wall Street firms. Some analysts seem to think that, as the fall of financial firms leads to business slowdowns for the Accentures and IBMs in the US and Europe, they may move more work to lower-cost offshore locations such as Bangalore.

Still, the day may not be far off when outsourcing companies offer their employees reflective yoga instead of salsa dancing. And then the Bangalore workforce will go back to feeling like average tech workers instead of modern-day Maharajas.
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Re: India's outsourcing bubble is bursting

Toyota Motors finalized huge outsource deal with two INdian Companies. One of my friends just negotiated a complete multi million dollar outsource deal with another compnay, 90% of that component is in India.

This bubble bust propoganda is only for people who are jealous and are not part of the boom.

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This economic crisis in USA should be a good eye opener for Bangalore. I dont believe that the outsourcing world in India will collapse, but this is a good lesson to many folks in Bangalore who kept jumping jobs and causing so many problems for clients. Another thing this teaches is that our IT service industry has to innovate and offer not just back office or legacy code services but much more. Many do provide complete design and coding and integration cycles, but now it is more important to demonstrate that more can be done.

Salaries in IT industry in India were going through the roof and many were just inflated and not realistic. I feel good for all who got a lot of money and made hay while the sun shone. But now its time to realize that 15 to 30 percent raises every year are not a long term phenomenon.

I think this will also cool down the much inflated and hyped up real estate sector. The prices are insane to buy even a one bedroom apartment in Bangalore.

Max, I dont think this will cause any long term adverse effects. I think this is a good 'correction' to our industry. I do not believe that outsourcing is cooling down or will cool down anytime soon. Its just that such 'bumps' are required to fix some over-hyped practises.
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Re: India's outsourcing bubble is bursting

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This economic crisis in USA should be a good eye opener for Bangalore. I dont believe that the outsourcing world in India will collapse, but this is a good lesson to many folks in Bangalore who kept jumping jobs and causing so many problems for clients. Another thing this teaches is that our IT service industry has to innovate and offer not just back office or legacy code services but much more. Many do provide complete design and coding and integration cycles, but now it is more important to demonstrate that more can be done.

Salaries in IT industry in India were going through the roof and many were just inflated and not realistic. I feel good for all who got a lot of money and made hay while the sun shone. But now its time to realize that 15 to 30 percent raises every year are not a long term phenomenon.

I think this will also cool down the much inflated and hyped up real estate sector. The prices are insane to buy even a one bedroom apartment in Bangalore.

Max, I dont think this will cause any long term adverse effects. I think this is a good 'correction' to our industry. I do not believe that outsourcing is cooling down or will cool down anytime soon. Its just that such 'bumps' are required to fix some over-hyped practises.
Indian IT industry is poised for a sharp slowdown. There might be consolidation and thereby mass layoffs. Salaries are pretty much going to stagnate for a long time.

Here's why. Banking and Financial services contribute upto 40-45% of IT revenues. The sharp slowdown in the US is going to have a severe impact on the indusrty. Also, Euro is declining vs the USD. That is going to make revenue slowdown in USD terms. These companies have still not guided lower. Looks like the heads of these companies are in deep slumber. Eventually they will wake up and guide lower and then the house of cards will come tumbling down.
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