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Old October 18th, 2016, 04:54 AM
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so, I won't brag about being a psychology topper in college & all but what I understand from this thread (& I could be mighty wrong)is that it's normal to experience feelings of rejection, Shring. absolutely normal! In fact from here on, you're likely to become introspective & examine yourself. Self-examination is believed to be a part of the healing process ... however, my dear, it's really really really important for you to resist the temptation to feel like a victim, because darlin' this will only hamper your movement from moving on with your life. break-ups, divorces are devastating. something of this sort only leaves you feeling angry, sad & self-critical. I can very well understand how shaken up you must be to the core. all these thoughts that you've been pouring in on this thread are only going to grab hold of you & make you vulnerable .. make you think you're making quite some sense here. it's overwhelming I know, it's normal-trust me. if you don't mind, I'd only suggest (that too for your wellness) that you need to accept that it's natural to feel rejected when a relationship ends but don't ever take these break-ups/divorces personally. you just need to focus on self-love. take the high road, work towards forgiving your ex & yourself. approach your next partner whoever he/she/it/they maybe with arms & eyes wide open. I really hope you get energized by the possibilities ahead of you!
I have been accused of being a woman hater, misogynist, rape apologizer, male chauvinist. This rejection accusation is a bit new. But it is important that you are a psychology student and a topper at that. The problem is psychology of today is nothing but an ideology of women's idea. They have gobble-dy gook words like "patriarchy", "male ego", etc and fill the brains with a lifetime of sawdust.


I too had swallowed the feminist gobbledy-gook. Then one day, I got an aha moment. This is how it happened-

I read a case in the paper. A woman was burnt to death. It was proved beyond all reasonable doubt that it was murder. Then they used circumstantial evidence to prove it was dowry harassment murder. At that time, the husband was in Assam. Only ma-in-law was at home. (pa-in-law had died years earlier). The guy, who could not have committed the murder got 25 years rigorous imprisonment. The mother in law was considered a co-conspirator and got off with 6 months suspended. I was discussing the case, saying that it was gross injustice. Ma-in-law is being let off because she is a woman and husband is taking the brunt because he is a man. The women started shrieking. It was justice they felt. He was to protect her was he not? She left her house for him!!! God! He cannot be the murderer. This is happening right before our eyes. That time I realized - that men are objectified - that men's pain does not matter.

The men on streets, the homeless are invisible. Thousands of men die on the front, fall victim to industrial accidents. They are never considered of value. In fact, in any fire drill, the women are saved first, and in actual life too. It is as though women are more valuable than men. Repeatedly we are told that we are disposable. Read papers. "Twenty workers and two women died" it will say - never "twenty men and two women." Twelve sailors and two women drowned. etc. etc.

Two famous feminists who also got the aha moment are

Erin Pizzey - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Erin_Pizzey
Warren Farrel - https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Warren_Farrell

Please please surf the net and read what they have to say. I have mentioned two. There are many others.

I know what is happening is evil - unadulterated evil. It is driven not by love of woman but by hatred of men, just like Nazism was not about love of Germans but about hatred of jews. But I am not an anti-feminist. I am not even calling for the system to be changed. I believe that we are long past it. That a downfall is imminent. It could be with a bang or slow decay - I know not. But it cannot be stopped. What I can do is change myself. That is the only thing in my hands. Realize that it is evil, and CHANGE myself. Acquire skills and talents to survive in a world of crumbling femininity and emerging post femininity.
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Old October 18th, 2016, 05:01 AM
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so what is the downfall that you are so sure is going to happen? Other than women being brought over from middle east?
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Old October 18th, 2016, 05:44 AM
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so what is the downfall that you are so sure is going to happen? Other than women being brought over from middle east?
I thought I made that clear - economic and demographic collapse. This is the way it happened - Rome. Magadh, Kushan, Greece (google it).

Men can do most things. They are relatively self sufficient. They need little. But there is one thing they cannot do - they cannot reproduce, at least not without the assistance of women. Historically, women have cleverly bartered their womb for the maximum benefit. As technology improved, they increased their demands from men. They have been making men go through the hoops. Nothing wrong in that. Because they did all this, mankind has survived and advanced. Without women, we would not have been so successful a species. Remember, that every man was finally born from the womb of a woman, who has nurtured him by extracting resources from another man. Women have instinctively known how far they can go. But once in a while, a mass madness takes over and women dramatically start asking more and more for their monopoly of the womb. Then, this is what happens -

Beyond a point, male will not accept it. Today marriage in the Western world means that the woman can pull the trigger anytime. He loses his freedom and his kids. He becomes a wage slave, liable to be put in debtors prison. So in the first stage, he avoids marriage. He looks at other alternatives like travel, video games, porn and sex dolls.

But he is unable to do that. Sex is a deeply ingrained biological need. Without the company of women, he becomes cranky - even mentally unbalanced.

In the second stage, he finds surrogates. Sex dolls emerge which give him "estrogen kicks", thus tricking his biological imperative. Now he can live without woman, but cannot procreate. Several men avoid marriage altogether. They struggle and often fail, but each person slowly learns from the guys before him

In stage three (where we are right now), a minimum mass gets built. Now staying alone is difficult, but not as difficult as it was earlier. Some people use surrogacy to have kids. Others try to create an artificial womb but are unsuccessful. But they are not marrying. They are telling their juniors not to marry, by describing the joys of life without women. The juniors psychologically drop out of society. They stop going to universities, stop doing hard work. Why should they, they need very little for themselves. Women wonder "where have good guys gone?" They see boys playing video games and call them as living in prolonged adolescence. In reality, they are on a different path altogether - a path where there is no woman and no need to work. In universities, more women than men enroll. Women earn more than men. Men do not bother for they are in never never land. Those who still are interested in women are awkward. Women are never asked for dates, men expect them to take the initiative. Unemployment is ridiculously high. Taxes take a beating. Govt has to recklessly print money to keep up public services

In stage four (coming soon), it is common to be alone. The earlier phase of high unemployment has led to sustained lower taxes (adjusted for inflation) and higher dole outs. Govts cannot manage. They reduce dole outs to men, but not to women. More men flee the system. The roads and bridges and infrastructure start crumbling. Women start howling. Men are blamed and a bachelor tax is introduced. The homeless are rounded up and forced to work on public projects - liberty be damned (it happened in US in 1930). Outsiders come in to temporarily fill the gap. One of two things happen - either there is deep recession or, if the govt avoids that by recklessly printing money, there is hyper inflation.

In stage five the collapse is apparent. There are movements to patch things up. But trust is completely lost. No one trusts newspapers because they are believed to be gynocentric (at this point there is a reversal, but guys do no believe). Any attempt to rouse the men fails. In Rome, when the barbarians came, men were dozing off, ready to protect only their families - mothers, sisters, but not their neighbours. Trust was lost and Rome was shattered. Systems are created to "sell sex" - The Magadhis had sex pics on temples to advertise it. Kushans had sex paintings.

Finally, very very little of the original population survives. Paradoxically, The women who were fighting for equality are ready to be slaves of the newcomers and show contempt for their own men for failing to protect them. A man may still take care of the women close to him, but not women in general. Several women have to leave for foreign shores to work as whores (see Greece, Hungary, Zimbabwe, Argentina, Russia, Czechoslovakia, Poland... and other collapses in the last 25 years)

That is the anatomy of the collapse. One civilization gone. Finito.
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Old October 18th, 2016, 06:47 AM
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I thought I made that clear - economic and demographic collapse. This is the way it happened - Rome. Magadh, Kushan, Greece (google it).

Men can do most things. They are relatively self sufficient. They need little. But there is one thing they cannot do - they cannot reproduce, at least not without the assistance of women. Historically, women have cleverly bartered their womb for the maximum benefit. As technology improved, they increased their demands from men. They have been making men go through the hoops. Nothing wrong in that. Because they did all this, mankind has survived and advanced. Without women, we would not have been so successful a species. Remember, that every man was finally born from the womb of a woman, who has nurtured him by extracting resources from another man. Women have instinctively known how far they can go. But once in a while, a mass madness takes over and women dramatically start asking more and more for their monopoly of the womb.
I had to stop reading after this. Maybe later but right now this whole thing is going over my head.

You are accusing women, the whole species, that we barter our wombs to reap maximum benefit from men. WRONG

I see myself and majority of the women I personally know as hard working, nurturing, loyal and good citizens who pay their taxes, love their children and their partner.

neither I nor my partner feel that we are "extracting" resources from each other to raise our children.

This is madness.

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Then one day, I got an aha moment.
aha! i get it - in your head you definitely must feel like you've cracked "The Da Vinci Code" but honestly you still aren't making any sense. please, listen to me- you need help. you are mixing your feelings of regret & culpability with these insane articles. don't do it. don't take the breakup/divorce personally. I've said this before, just set yourself free, allow your divorce or whatever you are going through to be driven by law & equality .. steer clear your feelings of guilt. my dear this guilt comes from a sense that you've done something miserable, something terrible. your posts are closely intertwined with shame & regret ... you know guilt shows up in many different ways, no matter how hard you try. do you have any children? please don't get me wrong, but you haven't committed any offense against your spouse or your children or your family. things at your end aren't that dreadful. please quit imagining you'll end up on the streets like those homeless men. sometimes people do get lucky- they are born in good families, married to good people. life is unfair, shring- you must learn .. you must live & learn. you need to get your acts & behaviour under control. your behavior makes perfect sense tho, i wouldn't deny that. you are projecting guilt onto women- that speaks volumes. only because you are pouring your thoughts, venting it out, it's all anger in a forceful & in a vengeful way. it's normal- trust me. you're hurt, hence this is an attempt to deflect your misdeeds & your wrong doings towards your own family & away from yourself with a lot of noise. get well soon, buddy! we need you here- just quit rambling here & copy paste some thrilling stories in that short story thread of yours. they make an interesting read!
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aha! i get it - in your head you definitely must feel like you've cracked "The Da Vinci Code" but honestly you still aren't making any sense. please, listen to me- you need help. you are mixing your feelings of regret & culpability with these insane articles. don't do it. don't take the breakup/divorce personally. I've said this before, just set yourself free, allow your divorce or whatever you are going through to be driven by law & equality .. steer clear your feelings of guilt. my dear this guilt comes from a sense that you've done something miserable, something terrible. your posts are closely intertwined with shame & regret ... you know guilt shows up in many different ways, no matter how hard you try. do you have any children? please don't get me wrong, but you haven't committed any offense against your spouse or your children or your family. things at your end aren't that dreadful. please quit imagining you'll end up on the streets like those homeless men. sometimes people do get lucky- they are born in good families, married to good people. life is unfair, shring- you must learn .. you must live & learn. you need to get your acts & behaviour under control. your behavior makes perfect sense tho, i wouldn't deny that. you are projecting guilt onto women- that speaks volumes. only because you are pouring your thoughts, venting it out, it's all anger in a forceful & in a vengeful way. it's normal- trust me. you're hurt, hence this is an attempt to deflect your misdeeds & your wrong doings towards your own family & away from yourself with a lot of noise. get well soon, buddy! we need you here- just quit rambling here & copy paste some thrilling stories in that short story thread of yours. they make an interesting read!
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What a thread!
I think what Shring is saying is based on how system is working. Just look around you - laws and society are biased towards women.
Examples are all around us. You just need to look.

That being said - I do not think it is true for all women.Many of them are loyal and loving in nature. But as I said society is biased towards women and against men. And many women are taking advantage of it.
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Absolutely! many a time we behave or react without showing any understanding to the other side of the same situation. even in our close circles we live on infinite assumptions. sometimes some unusual incidents are likely to leave an ineffaceable impression. I'm sure there are countless incidents Shring is referring to that aren't ready to leave his mind. the sheer thought is bound to send shivers down one's spine! he questioned why there are women shelters in plenty compared to men shelters ... i won't be surprised if tomorrow if he comes up saying sex workers (women) can't be raped.
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I had to stop reading after this. Maybe later but right now this whole thing is going over my head.

You are accusing women, the whole species, that we barter our wombs to reap maximum benefit from men. WRONG

I see myself and majority of the women I personally know as hard working, nurturing, loyal and good citizens who pay their taxes, love their children and their partner.

neither I nor my partner feel that we are "extracting" resources from each other to raise our children.

This is madness.

That is the part of the gender contract across not just humans, but all mammals. Women provide procreation and nurturing and men provide protection and provision. You say you and your husband work equally hard to provide for your children. Good. But then you are living in a stable society. Most of human and mammallian history, the men faced the danger. Probably your grandmother stayed at home and husband went to work. Today, if you and your husband are outside and the house with your children catches fire, would you not expect your husband to run in and save the children? Are you not extracting resources from him?
What is there to make your head spin? It is a well known fact that when women are pregnant, they need a man to go and hunt. That is nature. If that you find ridiculous, I don't know what to say.

You don't believe what I have to say, it is fine with me. I have no political agenda whatsoever. I do not think world will change to stop the collapse. I have an idea of what is going to happen (roughly) and what to act now to safeguard myself. I could be wrong. Let us wait and watch. Time will tell.

I feel that in the next 3-4 years, am anti-feminism backlash will come and some small changes, cosmetic changes to law will be done. But the main idea of feminism will continue. It will take about 15 years for the horrors to be visible.
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the sheer thought is bound to send shivers down one's spine! he questioned why there are women shelters in plenty compared to men shelters
Yes, I did. Why are they so many women shelters but not for men? I really want to know. The only answer that I get is that women can get raped. Sure. But men are getting killed in large numbers. Because women can get raped you can have a little more shelters for women. But ALL for women and NONE for men? That 99%+ homeless are men? That is preposterous. Where is the balance in all this? It is like saying that because asthma patients have it hard in winter, I will build shelters for asthma patients and not for anyone else. Get it? No one is cribbing about shelters for women. People are cribbing about AND NO ONE ELSE are having shelters. Because of homelessness, men are dying early. They have a lifespan of a good 10 years less than women. In that case, not building shelters for men is not EVIL?? What are you talking?

Please also remember that a lot of disabled war veterans are homeless. How can a man who has lost his limbs protecting you not have a shelter but a woman can because she can be raped and he cannot? What logic is that? This is already having consequences. US which always has had no problems finding men for battle is finding a shortage of men for the first time in 200 plus years. That is why they have to resort to drones, which is one day going to create its own issues.

One day, this is going to hit us all big time. Because women can be raped, they have laws which make a man guilty until proven innocent. Then they have targets for number of rape convictions. Then funding is based on targets. Then they have castration. Then they have targets for number of guys castrated. Are you even thinking what that means? My God! When the whole thing explodes, ....

If this is not EVIL, I do not know what is.
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Shtringray pai, I knew you had an uphill task... especially after I read Aahskaar tai's apples and oranges post. And more especially after I could not read Msshanjar tai's last couple of posts. Don't know what happened to her but her prose got suddenly all long and unbreakable. As if... as if... as if, it was a different id posting

But do not worry... we men understand what you are saying. At no point have you blamed a woman... or women. But the women echans, for some reason, assume that you have. Maybe a guilty feeling. It is a tough situation... for you. And we would love to see how you get out of it. This situation here on echarcha, I mean. As for the world-situation, we all agree... we are doomed. The demise of a civilization is imminent.

But I have good news... here is a list of songs that will help you,

1. Mera jeevan kora kagaz
2. Dukhi man mere sun mera kehna
3. Koi nahi mera is duniya mein
4. Jaye tho jaye kahan
5. Kabuthar jaa jaa jaa
6. Atari mein lotan kabutar re

Listen to them in that sequence... and slowly you will not feel that bad. Things will start to look up... especially here on echarcha. Duniya ka mujhe pata nahi.
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If this is not EVIL, I do not know what is.
E.V.I.L to the core, ya Shring! is it because today no place in society is safe for men? women & rapes is such a common thing these days, until proven guilty wonder how many rape accused walk free just in case they don't make it to the shelters?! what to do, buddy- society is such a thing. there's no unity only. there's one section that carries sympathy for the victims (be it any) so much so that the victim feels even more victimized socially & then there's another .. you know which one. you are Mr. Know-It-All after-all! I'm just wondering how much more Shring's untold horrors we're gonna read since Halloween is just around the corner! E.V.I.L!
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But I have good news... here is a list of songs that will help you,

1. Mera jeevan kora kagaz
2. Dukhi man mere sun mera kehna
3. Koi nahi mera is duniya mein
4. Jaye tho jaye kahan
5. Kabuthar jaa jaa jaa
6. Atari mein lotan kabutar re
bhai wah kya baat hai- you are talking my language but listen, can you just add this number to that list of songs? "teri panaah mein hame" ? don't ask me about the movie name. shring is friends with google, he'll find it out ... i just thought I'll suggests this one since he has been complaining about shelters .. poor thing at least this song may soothe him
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E.V.I.L to the core, ya Shring! is it because today no place in society is safe for men? women & rapes is such a common thing these days, until proven guilty wonder how many rape accused walk free just in case they don't make it to the shelters?! what to do, buddy- society is such a thing. there's no unity only. there's one section that carries sympathy for the victims (be it any) so much so that the victim feels even more victimized socially & then there's another .. you know which one. you are Mr. Know-It-All after-all! I'm just wondering how much more Shring's untold horrors we're gonna read since Halloween is just around the corner! E.V.I.L!
What are you trying to say? I just cannot make any sense of it all
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Re: Right to Revoke Consent? Your opinions

Guys,

You will feel what I am saying is crazy. Please, please do one thing. Google "bachelor tax", and read a few entries (not just one entry, but a few). Slowly, you will be convinced that there really have been taxes for bachelors in the past.

Once you are convinced that there have been taxes for bachelors, ask yourself - what situation must have been present for this to happen. Firstly, it happened because men were not interested in women (otherwise why have a bachelor/celibacy tax?) Also, for some reason women must have been pissed off that men are not marrying them.

Once you accept the situation that men are not marrying women, ask yourself why? Why are men not indulging in the most basic of human needs - sex. Something must have happened. They must have dropped off the social expectations wagon.

That is all. Please read up about bachelor tax.

Also plz read this on how feminism has made masculinity itself a sin, and that is making boys drop out

https://pjmedia.com/drhelen/2016/10/...es-their-life/

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