No Reservation for Muslims?

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Originally Posted by Shringarey

What you people are saying is OK - that there should be no reservations. But now that there are reservations, should not 12% go to Muslims?

The Supreme Court struck it down as unconstitutional. But we can amend the constitution

Muslims should not get anything.. they are at 14-15%, that is not minority. By your logic, Hindus should get 78% reservation. Merit gone to the drain.

[Aashika]

Originally Posted by Shringarey

What you people are saying is OK - that there should be no reservations. But now that there are reservations, should not 12% go to Muslims?

The Supreme Court struck it down as unconstitutional. But we can amend the constitution

if 50% is going to SC STs etc and 12% is going to Muslims....let me do the math, 62% is off limits for merit based jobs??

[swami]

Originally Posted by Shringarey

What you people are saying is OK - that there should be no reservations. But now that there are reservations, should not 12% go to Muslims?

The Supreme Court struck it down as unconstitutional. But we can amend the constitution

But I fail to understand why are you demanding reservation for them ?
I think I should delete this thread so that there is no real protest for muslim reservation.

What say bhai/behen log ?

[jeetiaf]

Originally Posted by Shringarey

What you people are saying is OK - that there should be no reservations. But now that there are reservations, should not 12% go to Muslims?

The Supreme Court struck it down as unconstitutional. But we can amend the constitution

As per constitution there cannot be any special treatment on the basis of caste,religion etc. reservations can be for certain class of people.

Originally Posted by sarv_shaktimaan

Muslims should not get anything.. they are at 14-15%, that is not minority. By your logic, Hindus should get 78% reservation. Merit gone to the drain.

Originally Posted by Aashika

if 50% is going to SC STs etc and 12% is going to Muslims....let me do the math, 62% is off limits for merit based jobs??

what is merit? An exam with mcqs?

difference between my eldest sister (IPS) and second one (IFS) is some marks and that my friends is merit.

it doesn't account for anything

Originally Posted by swami

But I fail to understand why are you demanding reservation for them ?
I think I should delete this thread so that there is no real protest for muslim reservation.

What say bhai/behen log ?

no, he has a valid question which is constitutionally invalid.

jeetIAF

[rationalthinker]

what is merit? An exam with mcqs?

difference between my eldest sister (IPS) and second one (IFS) is some marks and that my friends is merit.

it doesn't account for anything


It's not just the marks, it's also the 'category'------general/reserved: and then, the difference can be humongous-------- and then, merit becomes incredibly important!

If merit is THAT egregious, why HAVE exams and tests?----Just employ/appoint at random and expect the 'training imparted for the job to fulfil the 'requirements'!

[ashdoc]

maybe 12 percent of rented accommodations too should be reserved for muslims . they need that more urgently . look at actor eijaz khan's case .

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/t...w/57990705.cms

[Bhidubhai]

What if a community (any) goes on only reproducing and increasing their population share so that their quota increases? What then? BTW, when does merit kick-in?

I am a strong supporter of current reservations for SC, ST, BC, etc..but do not want it to expand on religious basis. We owe it to those who have been historically suppressed but not the ones who want to come across as suppressed.

Wasnt a whole country carved out for Muslims? What was that for? It was on religious basis. And now again dividing opportunities and resources on religious basis does not make any sense. If they made a choice to stay here, they are welcome to stay without any expectations of reservations. If they wanted to not live as backward, nobody stopped them from going to Pak where they could live as forward majority

Why does Shringarey want reservations for Muslims? I did not understand his reasons.

[Bhidubhai]

Originally Posted by ashdoc

maybe 12 percent of rented accommodations too should be reserved for muslims . they need that more urgently . look at actor eijaz khan's case .

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/t...w/57990705.cms

Isnt this different from asking for reservations?

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Originally Posted by ashdoc

maybe 12 percent of rented accommodations too should be reserved for muslims . they need that more urgently . look at actor eijaz khan's case .

http://timesofindia.indiatimes.com/t...w/57990705.cms

He can rent in Khar and come to Bandra in an auto every day, it's not very far either Many film stars live in Khar.

Finding a place in Bandra is like a needle in haystack, and then he's Muslim too. After 1991 blasts and riots, the Hindus and Muslims started living very separate.. he only has his brothers in Pak (and those that support terrorists in India) to blame for that. It's called collateral.

[kkkk]

why do muslims need reservations - proportion of population the reason? Thats rubbish spewed from the 'we are victims' brigade.

isn't accepting handouts evil according to the religion of peace?

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Originally Posted by kkkk

why do muslims need reservations - proportion of population the reason? Thats rubbish spewed from the 'we are victims' brigade.

isn't accepting handouts evil according to the religion of peace?

for each islamic terror incident, take off 1% from muslim reservation.

[BABU_HYDERABADI]

Originally Posted by rationalthinker

what is merit? An exam with mcqs?

difference between my eldest sister (IPS) and second one (IFS) is some marks and that my friends is merit.

it doesn't account for anything


It's not just the marks, it's also the 'category'------general/reserved: and then, the difference can be humongous-------- and then, merit becomes incredibly important!

If merit is THAT egregious, why HAVE exams and tests?----Just employ/appoint at random and expect the 'training imparted for the job to fulfil the 'requirements'!

merit is not bad, it actually filters the good from the bad and intelligent from dumb and hardworking from lazy.

Merit is a new form of survival of the fittest, it helps humanity from propagating dumb genes to the next generation.

[jeetiaf]

Originally Posted by rationalthinker

what is merit? An exam with mcqs?

difference between my eldest sister (IPS) and second one (IFS) is some marks and that my friends is merit.

it doesn't account for anything


It's not just the marks, it's also the 'category'------general/reserved: and then, the difference can be humongous-------- and then, merit becomes incredibly important!

If merit is THAT egregious, why HAVE exams and tests?----Just employ/appoint at random and expect the 'training imparted for the job to fulfil the 'requirements'!

If merit is really working, why aren't we making some great discoveries?
If two candidates both graduated from IPS academy, one through reservation and another through general competition. how can you convince ordinary person that there will be difference among two if passing standard is same for all cadets there?

Merit is making our future suicide at Kota

Originally Posted by Bhidubhai

Isnt this different from asking for reservations?

Try changing your name to Bhidubhai singh Jatav or other dalit sounding name and then let me know how easy for you to rent an apartment in Delhi/NCR

Originally Posted by BABU_HYDERABADI

merit is not bad, it actually filters the good from the bad and intelligent from dumb and hardworking from lazy.

Merit is a new form of survival of the fittest, it helps humanity from propagating dumb genes to the next generation.

good is from the privileged school, bad is from village school
Intelligent is forward caste kid studying in uber school in delhi, dumb is an SC from Sarkari Pathshala
Hardworking is Babu of forward caste working in office and Lazy is an OBC from a village in field

jeetIAF

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Originally Posted by jeetiaf

If two candidates both graduated from IPS academy, one through reservation and another through general competition. how can you convince ordinary person that there will be difference among two if passing standard is same for all cadets there?

Is passing standard the same for both reservation and general, no leniency there like few grace points for reservation guy? What about medical colleges, don't they let in reservation folks with so less marks in exams? I personally know a doctor couple whose son was denied admission even though he had like 95 percentile, but reservation folks got in with 36 percentile. What kind of Doctor will these produce, money minting compounders?

[jeetiaf]

Originally Posted by sarv_shaktimaan

Is passing standard the same for both reservation and general, no leniency there like few grace points for reservation guy? What about medical colleges, don't they let in reservation folks with so less marks in exams? I personally know a doctor couple whose son was denied admission even though he had like 95 percentile, but reservation folks got in with 36 percentile. What kind of Doctor will these produce, money minting compounders?

No, tell me one education institute where you have studied which had different passing marks for the people of reserved category or grace awarded. I know none

If that 36% guy passes his medical examination nice and well and like anyother candidate, what is the difference?

jeetIAF