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Angry Pelosi Tells Illegal Immigrants That Work Site Raids are Un-American

All you shmucks, standing in long lines for a Green Card are real morons. All you needed to do was get into Mexico and then jump across the border. Look, how Nancy Pelosi is defending illegal aliens or 'undocumented workers'.

So from now on, remember that you were a idiot in following the proper procedures for immigration. Next time, tell your cousin back home to get a flight into Mexico and then jump across the border where Democrats will be waiting with a gold plated platter which will give you better rights than legal immigrants

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The speaker of the House told a group of both legal and illegal immigrants recently that enforcement of immigration laws in the United States is "un-American."

House Speaker Nancy Pelosi recently told a group of both legal and illegal immigrants and their families that enforcement of existing immigration laws, as currently practiced, is "un-American."

The speaker, condemning raids by Immigration and Customs Enforcement agents, referred to the immigrants she was addressing as "very, very patriotic."

"Who in this country would not want to change a policy of kicking in doors in the middle of the night and sending a parent away from their families?" Pelosi told a mostly Hispanic gathering at St. Anthony's Church in San Francisco.

Video: Click here to view the video of Pelosi speaking.

"It must be stopped....What value system is that? I think it's un-American. I think it's un-American."

Pelosi said she was invited to the church by Rep. Luis Gutierrez, D-Ill., as part of his 17-city, cross-country tour called United Families, which he says is intended to put a human face on the immigration debate.

"We think that families are the cornerstone of our society and our nation, and an immigration system should preserve those families, not destroy them," Gutierrez told FOX News Capitol Hill Producer Chad Pergram on Tuesday.

The congressman is collecting petitions that ask President Obama to "stop the immigration raids and deportations that are tearing our marriages, families and children apart." He is expected to present those petitions when Hispanic members of Congress meet with the President Wednesday.

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On Saturday night, Pelosi joined Gutierrez before a cheering crowd at St. Anthony's chanting, "Si se puede," or "Yes we can."

Referring to work site enforcement actions by ICE agents, Pelosi said, "We have to have a change in policy and practice and again ... I can't say enough, the raids must end. The raids must end.

"You are special people. You're here on a Saturday night to take responsibility for our country's future. That makes you very, very patriotic."

"I was embarrassed by what she said," said Rick Oltman, with Californians for Population Stabilization, an anti-illegal immigrant group. "Exhorting illegal aliens for taking responsibility for our country's future.... In fact, sitting there in the audience.... I really resented that comment."

"I think it was pandering to the crowd but also insulting to American citizens who consider themselves to be patriotic, who obey the rule of law," said Oltman, who shot a video of the rally.

For more on this story, watch Special Report With Bret Baier at 6 p.m. EDT on FOX News Channel.

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"It must be stopped....What value system is that? I think it's un-American. I think it's un-American."
budhiya sathiya gayi hai..i hope an illegal immigrant, preferably an MS-13 fucks her in her posterior..
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I can understand your outrage, but you see, this is what you get with 'Change' I dont think all Democrats are bad but unfortunately the ones in power are totally whacked out and crazy. They have no sense of fair play.
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All you shmucks, standing in long lines for a Green Card are real morons. All you needed to do was get into Mexico and then jump across the border. Look, how Nancy Pelosi is defending illegal aliens or 'undocumented workers'.

So from now on, remember that you were a idiot in following the proper procedures for immigration. Next time, tell your cousin back home to get a flight into Mexico and then jump across the border where Democrats will be waiting with a gold plated platter which will give you better rights than legal immigrants
here is her next statement:
keeping highly skilled people in GC line is very American
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budhiya sathiya gayi hai..i hope an illegal immigrant, preferably an MS-13 fucks her in her posterior..
MS-13 is local to Capitol Beltway and vicinity (although it started in L.A once upon a time)

just wondering why preference to MS-13?
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Hmmmm... wonder what Obama will say. If I am not wrong, I think he will announce 'amnesty' for all illegal aliens! Viva Le Obama

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President Barack Obama will present plans for immigration reform this year, Hispanic lawmakers said Wednesday after strategic talks at the White House.
Obama "was clear and eloquent and determinate to let us know that we are all together in the route of comprehensive immigration reform," Democratic lawmaker Luis Gutierrez told reporters after the discussion between the president and the Congressional Hispanic Caucus (CHC).

"We believe that we are moving forward this year, we are going to work with the president," added CHC leader Nydia Velazquez.

Obama will convene a public forum on the issue "probably in two months," according to New Jersey Senator Bob Menendez.

The White House said in a statement that the meeting was "robust and strategic" and that Obama will work with CHC members to address immigration reform "in both the short and long term."

Two legislative measures to reform immigration failed to gain traction in Congress in 2006 and 2007, as lawmakers grappled with the task of addressing the 12 million undocumented would-be immigrants in the United States.

In the meeting CHC members made "absolutely clear that this is the civil rights issue of our community and that we will all be judged on how we act on this issue," added Gutierrez.

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Yes in this economy, all we need is more illegal aliens who dont pay a dime in taxes. We need all our tax money to go for free medical care of these illegal aliens. We need to have more illegals here so that all of us law abiding legal immigrants can just be screwed more and more ....

And offcourse, we learn that obeying the law is important. But now the new lesson is that the government itself does not want to enforce the law. So should we be telling our friends back home to just come to Mexico, jump across the border and enjoy benefits at tax payer dollars?

Look at what the Obama administration is thinking up next!

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Sunday, March 29, 2009; 1:19 PM

Homeland Security Secretary Janet Napolitano has delayed a series of proposed immigration raids and other enforcement actions at U.S. workplaces in recent weeks, asking agents in her department to apply more scrutiny to the selection and investigation of targets as well as the timing of raids, federal officials said.

A senior department official said the delays signal a pending change in whom agents at U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement choose to prosecute -- increasing the focus on businesses and executives instead of ordinary workers.

"ICE is now scrutinizing these cases more thoroughly to ensure that [targets] are being taken down when they should be taken down, and that the employer is being targeted and the surveillance and the investigation is being done how it should be done," said the official, discussing Napolitano's views about sensitive law enforcement matters on the condition of anonymity.

"There will be a change in policy, but in the interim, you've got to scrutinize the cases coming up," the senior DHS official said, noting Napolitano's expectations as a former federal prosecutor and state attorney general.

Another DHS official said Napolitano plans to release protocols this week to ensure more consistent work-site investigations and less "haphazard" decision-making.

Napolitano's moves have led some to question President Obama's commitment to work-site raids, which were a signature of Bush administration efforts to combat illegal immigration. Napolitano has highlighted other priorities, such as combating Mexican drug cartels and catching dangerous criminals who are illegal immigrants.

Napolitano's moves foreshadow the difficult political decisions the Obama administration faces as it decides whether to continue mass arrests of illegal immigrant workers in sweeps of meatpackers, construction firms, defense contractors and other employers.

Critics say workplace and neighborhood sweeps are harsh and indiscriminate, and they accuse the government of racial profiling, violating due process rights and committing other humanitarian abuses.

The raids have enraged Latino community and religious leaders, immigrant advocates and civil liberties groups important to the Democratic base, who have stepped up pressure on Obama to stop them.

At a rally last week in Chicago, Cardinal Francis George, head of the archdiocese of Obama's home city, called on the government "to end immigration raids and the separation of families" and support an overhaul of immigration law. "Reform would be a clear sign this administration is truly about change," George said.

Also last week, House Speaker Nancy Pelosi (D-Calif.) and the Congressional Hispanic Caucus made similar calls as the caucus met formally with Obama for the first time.

"Raids that break up families in that way, just kick in the door in the middle of the night, taking [a] father, a parent away, that's just not the American way. It must stop," Pelosi added at a Capitol Hill conference on border issues sponsored by the U.S. Chamber of Commerce.

But Obama also faces pressure from conservative lawmakers and many centrist Democrats, who say that workplace enforcement is needed to reduce the supply of jobs that attract illegal immigrants, and that any retreat in defending American jobs in a recession could ignite a populist backlash.

When the White House announced plans last week to move more than 450 federal agents and equipment to the border to counter Mexico's drug cartels, lawmakers warned Napolitano against diverting money from workplace operations.

Rep. Lamar Smith (Tex.), ranking Republican on the House Judiciary Committee, said the administration "appears to be using border violence as an excuse" to undercut immigration enforcement in the nation's interior.

"It makes no sense to take funds from one priority (worksite enforcement) to address a new priority (the growth in border violence). This is just robbing Peter to pay Paul," Sen. Robert C. Byrd (D-W.Va.), the powerful chairman of the Senate Appropriations subcommittee for homeland security, said in an e-mail.

Led by Byrd, Congress this year ordered ICE to spend $127 million on workplace operations, $34 million more than President George W. Bush had requested. Reducing those amounts, even in ICE's overall $5 billion budget, would provoke a fight, senior aides in both parties said.

DHS officials categorically deny any reduction. Instead Napolitano has sought to chart a middle course by ordering a review of which immigrants are targeted for arrest. While a policy is still under development, Napolitano has said she intends to focus more on prosecuting criminal cases of wrongdoing by companies. Analysts say they also think ICE may conduct fewer raids, focusing routine enforcement on civil infractions of worker eligibility verification rules.

Former Bush administration officials said their raids were also targeted against supervisors, but that it took time to build complicated white-collar cases. In the meantime, they said, depriving companies of their workforces and in some cases filing criminal charges against illegal immigrant workers sent a clear message of deterrence to both management and labor.

Mark Krikorian, executive director of the Center for Immigration Studies, which seeks to reduce immigration, said Obama aides are trying to manage the issue until an economic turnaround permits an attempt to overhaul immigration laws.

"I think their calculus is, how do they keep Hispanic groups happy enough without angering the broader public so much that they sabotage health care and their other priorities?" Krikorian said.

Ali Noorani, executive director of the National Immigration Forum, an immigrant advocacy group, said that to the contrary, groups such as his support Obama's focus on going after bad employers and criminal illegal immigrants first -- or as he put it, prioritizing "drug smugglers, not window washers."

Within ICE, the front-office vetting of cases has led to some doubts. Last week, for example, ICE postponed plans to raid employers at a military-related facility in Chicago for which they had arranged to temporarily detain as many as 100 illegal immigrants, according to one official. A second official said Napolitano thought the investigative work was inadequate.

The raid would have been the second under the Obama administration. After the first, a Feb. 24 sweep of an engine-parts maker in Bellingham, Wash., that led to 28 arrests, Napolitano publicly expressed disappointment that ICE did not inform her beforehand and announced an investigation into agency communication practices.

In response, Leigh H. Winchell, the ICE special agent in charge in Seattle, wrote an e-mail to his staff -- subsequently leaked to conservative bloggers -- saying they had acted correctly. He also copied a statement from House Republicans calling Napolitano's review "beyond backwards."

"You did nothing wrong and you did everything right," Winchell wrote. "I cannot control the politics that take place with these types of situations, but I can remind you that you are great servants of this country and this agency."

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Now here is the latest slap in the face of all the legal immigrants waiting in serpentine queues for getting a green card. First the ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) officers raid a workplace and arrest 27 illegal immigrants. Then they just offer them legal work permits!! And no not H1B visas but directly EAD cards which is like a provisional Green Card till you get it finally!!

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SEATTLE — The Department of Homeland Security freed 27 illegal immigrants arrested during a workplace raid in February and offered them legal work permits, signaling a major departure from the immigration enforcement policy of the Bush administration.

The Feb. 24 raid of an auto parts plant in Bellingham, Wash., netted 28 illegal immigrants. While one was deported, the remaining workers were released from custody and given employment authorization documents, or EADs, in exchange for cooperating with an ongoing investigation of their employer, Yamato Engine Specialists.

The EAD is a temporary work permit most commonly given to people applying for green cards or citizenship. It usually lasts for one year, but Immigration and Customs Enforcement (I.C.E.) sources tell FOX News that these work permits will expire when the case against Yamato is closed.

Immigrant rights activists support the move and the new direction Secretary Janet Napolitano is taking the Homeland Security Department with her focus on penalizing employers rather than the immigrants themselves.

"She is crafting and the people in her department are crafting a strategy that could target some people who are abusive and manipulative as employers," said Pramila Jayapal, executive director of the Seattle-based immigrant aid group OneAmerica.

But critics say the softened policy will increase the number of illegal immigrants entering the country.

"The signal that it sends to illegal immigrants is that if you can get here, you're pretty much home free," said Ira Mehlman, a spokesman for the Federation for American Immigration Reform.

The Bellingham raid was the first and only mass arrest of immigrants since President Obama took office and came as a shock to Napolitano, who ordered a review of the incident the day after.

"I didn't know about it beforehand," she told the House Homeland Security Committee the morning following the raid. "I want to get to the bottom of this as well."

The response from the Department of Homeland Security marks a major shift from the last years of the Bush administration, when workplace arrests of illegals were commonplace.

Criminal arrests of employers who hired illegal immigrants skyrocketed from 25 in 2002 to 1,103 in 2008. The number of deportations jumped from 485 to 5,184 over that same time period. The Obama administration has sought a freeze on immigrant arrests.

Enforcement advocates say Americans should be outraged by the government giving illegal immigrants a right to work when unemployment is so high for documented workers.

Unemployment in Whatcom County, home to the Yamato plant, has risen to 8.1 percent, and in the days after the Yamato raid, more than 150 people applied for the jobs made open by the arrests.

Immigrant groups say the release was a humane act that is keeping families together and allowing them to earn a decent living.

Secretary Napolitano is expected to soon formally announce new guidelines for workplace immigration enforcement.

An I.C.E source in Washington D.C. disputes the claim that this marks a new policy telling FOX News the work permits are issued as an investigative tool to get cooperation from the illegal immigrants.

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Now here is the latest slap in the face of all the legal immigrants waiting in serpentine queues for getting a green card. First the ICE (Immigration and Customs Enforcement) officers raid a workplace and arrest 27 illegal immigrants. Then they just offer them legal work permits!! And no not H1B visas but directly EAD cards which is like a provisional Green Card till you get it finally!!
This is called absolute chewtiyagiri. Next will be providing a girl to a rapist.
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And now more amnesty to illegal aliens! Yes, that the 'Change we can' believe in

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Friday, April 3, 2009

A newly revealed law enforcement policy allows illegal immigrants arrested during work-site raids to be released from jail and given work permits in exchange for their testimony against their employers, a House panel was informed Thursday, a tactic one lawmaker described as "de facto amnesty."

The policy was revealed as Democrats pressed to rein in a federal program that trains state and local police to enforce immigration laws, comparing the popular but contentious program to civil-rights-era police collusion with the Ku Klux Klan.

Marcy Forman, director of the Immigration and Custom Enforcement (ICE) investigative office, defended the work-permit program to the House Appropriations subcommittee on homeland security, saying it "allows the U.S. government to elicit statements of aliens in our custody" to pursue criminal cases against companies that knowingly employ and mistreat illegal immigrants.

"ICE intends to fully utilize its investigative resources and tools and is authorized to investigate and prove cases against employers. We are utilizing all tools available," Ms. Forman said.

The ICE policy angered some House Republicans, who questioned Ms. Forman and other Homeland Security officials about a raid in February at a Yamato Engine plant in Bellingham, Wash., and the subsequent release last week of 24 illegal immigrants who were issued the work permits and allowed to remain in the U.S.

"Questionable enforcement practices such as these send a decidedly mixed message and effectively put illegal immigrants at the front of the employment line," said Rep. Harold Rogers of Kentucky, the ranking Republican on the subcommittee.

The Bellingham Herald reported that the majority of the illegal immigrants were released with documents advising them "that per the assistant United States attorney assigned to this case, all persons involved with the Yamato Engine Specialists ... should be afforded the benefit of deferred action and an employment authorization document, valid for the duration of this case."

The illegal immigrants were screened to ensure they do not present a threat to the U.S., and must check in weekly with an ICE agent.

While Democrats on the panel defended this program, which subcommittee Chairman David E. Price of North Carolina described as "long-standing," other Democrats aimed their sights on the George W. Bush-era program that trains state and local police to enforce federal immigration laws.

Across the country, 67 communities have signed agreements, including some in the Washington region, and several dozen other communities are seeking to join the program, known as 287(g) because of the section of federal law that governs it.

"The federal government has a duty, just as we did when local law enforcement colluded with the Ku Klux Klan many years ago, to intervene and protect individual rights against local law enforcement if they are violating such rights," Rep. Jerrold Nadler, New York Democrat, said at a joint hearing before two House Judiciary subcommittees.

Even though he wasn't present - Democrats did not invite him to testify - Sheriff Joe Arpaio of Maricopa County in Arizona was clearly targeted in the joint hearing. By his own acknowledgment, Sheriff Arpaio has become the "poster boy" for local enforcement of immigration laws.

One of the witnesses was George Gascon, chief of the Mesa, Ariz., police department, which is in Sheriff Arpaio's jurisdiction. Chief Gascon, who opposes the raids, painted a picture of law enforcement overstepping, using SWAT-type teams to round up illegal immigrants including in a raid on Mesa's city hall.

On one occasion, he said, he had to deploy his own officers to separate pro-raid and anti-raid demonstrators at the site of a raid. Chief Gascon said a focus on immigration is hurting Maricopa County's efforts to fight other crimes.

"They're not concentrating on local crime issues, and that is why their crime stats are going as high as they are," he said.

Rep. Trent Franks, Arizona Republican, said the hearing was an attempt to intimidate law enforcement into not taking part in the program - something Sheriff Arpaio said isn't going to happen.

"Everybody is going after me, hoping that I will stop - it will never happen," he told The Washington Times in a telephone interview.

Even if the federal program is revoked, he said, Arizona's laws give him the latitude to pursue smugglers and those who violate the state's tough law against employing illegal immigrant workers.

Sheriff Arpaio seemed to take pride in the fact that he has been an early target of the Obama administration - at the urging of Democrats in Congress, the Justice Department has opened an investigation into his activities - and said if they have problems it's with the federal program and U.S. Immigration and Customs Enforcement, which administers it.

He criticized the panel's decision not to invite him but to call Chief Gascon instead.

"Why did they call him? Why did they call people against me, two or three? Why didn't they call me? Because you know what, they knew that I would reveal their statements," he said. "They probably got the word, 'Uh-oh, don't call this sheriff because he's going to embarrass all of you.' "

Rep. Zoe Lofgren, a California Democrat who chaired the hearing, said lawmakers did not invite Sheriff Arpaio because they saw that he had told a newspaper that he wouldn't attend.

A Government Accountability Office report said 287(g) doesn't have adequate controls to make sure local departments are using the authority consistently, and that some communities are worried the police powers are being used for minor violations or racial profiling.

Meanwhile, at her hearing, Ms. Forman told the House panel that the Obama administration is committed to cracking down on business owners who knowingly employ illegal immigrants.

But after a round of rapid-fire questions from Mr. Rogers, Ms. Forman said the administration is targeting only businesses that exploit illegal immigrants with low pay and subject them to harsh working conditions.

"We're seeing history here today," Mr. Rogers said. "A new policy now says we will not raid or prosecute ... an employer, so long as the employer does not exploit the worker. That is de facto amnesty. If you are treated fairly, we're not going to prosecute," Mr. Rogers said, who added that he was "disgusted."

Rep. John Culberson, Texas Republican, said the approach to worksite enforcement "is just not acceptable." Rep. Ken Calvert, California Republican, asked what percentage of illegal immigrants released under the same policy "just disappear and don't report back?"

Ms. Forman said she could not provide a number, but "I will assure you there is great oversight over these individuals."

Asked about illegal immigrants who flee the program and then find work under new names, Ms. Forman said, "We certainly do our best to seek them out and find them."

Rep. Ciro D. Rodriguez, Texas Democrat, praised the administration's approach to worksite enforcement and said that if the arrested immigrants are deported, they can't testify against the companies that hired them.

"There is a balance there we want to strike," Mr. Rodriguez said.

Mr. Price, chairman of the panel, called it a "contentious and controversial issue" but agreed more focus should be placed on the employer rather than the illegal immigrants arrested in the raid.

"As part of its investigation, ICE has employed a long-standing law enforcement tactic by granting 'temporary immigration status' to certain individuals, which does not permanently change the status of these immigrants; it is a tactic utilized in many past investigations and does not represent any change in worksite enforcement policy," Mr. Price said.

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