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Old October 12th, 2013, 06:13 PM
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Re: Shirdi Sai Baba - is he part of Hinduism?

Don't know much about history/ origination of saints/ god
But isn't that believing on sai baba or any other god is just a matter of faith.
I'll not define this as miracle but definitely a positive change once I started going
For Sai ( Sathya) bhajans.
Its just that once you are into that positive faith ( no matter which religion/ god)
Everything becomes belief and then miracle.
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Re: Shirdi Sai Baba - is he part of Hinduism?

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Dude, Samarth Swami of Akkalkot and Sai Baba of Shirdi are both avatars of Lord Dattatreya in Kalyuga.
also gajanan maharaj from shegaon. gana gana ganata bote.
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also gajanan maharaj from shegaon. gana gana ganata bote.
Could someone translate these into simple Marathi or English or Hindi for me?
1. gana gana ganat bote
2. ude ga ambe ude OR aai radhe udo udo amba-baicha udo udo
3. marathi tituka melava

I have some more for later.
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Could someone translate these into simple Marathi or English or Hindi for me?
1. gana gana ganat bote
2. ude ga ambe ude OR aai radhe udo udo amba-baicha udo udo
3. marathi tituka melava

I have some more for later.
Of course... I will translate these for you...


1. Singing mathematically and from deep within your bones

2. Fly and get those mangoes... or mother Radha, fly and get those mangoes

3. Marathi, why are you dying there

My pleasure.
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Re: Shirdi Sai Baba - is he part of Hinduism?

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Millions of people around the world worship Shirdi Sai Baba. I'm sure there are folks on this forum that worship him. My question is - does he belong to the pantheon of Hindu gods?

Hindus have this false perception that every spiritual utterance by anybody at anytime falls into the Hindu domain and every God belongs to the Hindu pantheon of Gods, and this includes Christ and Allah. That's how they define Sanatana Dharma, which is ludicrous at best and blasphemous at worst.

First of all, no christian or muslim is going to accept that definition. So basically, Hindus are forced to define their values by process of elimination. That's a horrible way to understand one's religion.

Shirdi Sai Baba is a prime example. Some Hindus are okay with considering him a Hindu God. He may have preached love and do good and all that. He must be an influential saint, but why does he get lumped into Hinduism? He should start a new religion called SaiBabism.

Saibabaism is NOT Hinduism.
Had it not been for media and the law, even Asaram would have been declared as avtaar of Vishnu or Shiva.

Saibaba was lucky not to worry about electronic media since there was none.

But he's inspired many baba's after him

1> Satya Sai Baba
2> Nirankari Baba
3> Nirmal Baba
4> Asaram Bapu

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Re: Shirdi Sai Baba - is he part of Hinduism?

guyz imo we should not say every saint as Bhagwan. and we should not worship saints. everything is in our holy books.
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Re: Shirdi Sai Baba - is he part of Hinduism?

Well sai is different..all these new babas are bloody frauds.. sai lived the life of a sanyasi and died a sanyasi.. the followers made him a GODly figure post his departure.. he never asked for it nor pined for it.. so leave him alone.. his followers are to blame.
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Well sai is different..all these new babas are bloody frauds.. sai lived the life of a sanyasi and died a sanyasi.. the followers made him a GODly figure post his departure.. he never asked for it nor pined for it.. so leave him alone.. his followers are to blame.
I am not demeaning Sai Baba in any way. He may have been a great person or even God himself. I am nobody to judge him.

My point is - why should Sai Baba become a part of Hindu pantheon of Gods? He never espoused Hindu values. He was just advocating 'good' behavior. Mainstream Muslims don't consider him as God.

Sai Baba followers should start a new religion called SaiBabaism, like Buddhism or Jainism.
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Re: Shirdi Sai Baba - is he part of Hinduism?

Really.. and what exactly are those.. espouse-able Hindu values that you hold so dear? If you might care to share so I can give you an informed opinion.
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Really.. and what exactly are those.. espouse-able Hindu values that you hold so dear? If you might care to share so I can give you an informed opinion.
He said Hindus and Muslims were one - which is okay if it's mutual; but it isn't and will never be. He says "Allah Malik"....Swami Wikipada has a ton of info on him.

There is nothing "hindu" about him. He is just promoting general feel-good, universal values.
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Re: Shirdi Sai Baba - is he part of Hinduism?

Ok now that you have one point.. lets get some more.. and also please care to elaborate WHO a hindu is and WHO a muslim is and who is neither for specificity. And mutual which means one agrees both agrees or neither agrees and who is who to represent who.. ie who gave the authority and who gave the authority to the person giving authority in the first place, to say person "a" who calls himself hindu and disagrees and "b" who calls himself hindu and agrees and "c" and "d" for muslim specimens respectively of the same ilk to represnt all hindus/muslims sundry respectively.. and also specifically what are those espouse-able Hindu values that sai failed to elaborate on.. you said he espoused something that you perhaps do not agree upon.. not any that he DIDN'T espouse.. too many holes eh!!

Pliss try again. And with all due respect, do not just increase the quantum of fart expecting to get applause.. get some data with substance and then pontificate.. just farting even environmentalists will shun you because methane happens to be a greenhouse gas causing global warming.. perhaps you did not know but that is scientifically accepted and you can use google to check that piece of information yourself..

So try again.. I wish you all the good luck and wishes.
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Ok now that you have one point.. lets get some more.. and also please care to elaborate WHO a hindu is and WHO a muslim is and who is neither for specificity. And mutual which means one agrees both agrees or neither agrees and who is who to represent who.. ie who gave the authority and who gave the authority to the person giving authority in the first place, to say person "a" who calls himself hindu and disagrees and "b" who calls himself hindu and agrees and "c" and "d" for muslim specimens respectively of the same ilk to represnt all hindus/muslims sundry respectively.. and also specifically what are those espouse-able Hindu values that sai failed to elaborate on.. you said he espoused something that you perhaps do not agree upon.. not any that he DIDN'T espouse.. too many holes eh!!

Pliss try again. And with all due respect, do not just increase the quantum of fart expecting to get applause.. get some data with substance and then pontificate.. just farting even environmentalists will shun you because methane happens to be a greenhouse gas causing global warming.. perhaps you did not know but that is scientifically accepted and you can use google to check that piece of information yourself..

So try again.. I wish you all the good luck and wishes.
Good luck and wishes for what?

Honestly, I couldn't follow your question. Are you asking me to tell you who is a Hindu and who is a Muslim and who is neither?
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Re: Shirdi Sai Baba - is he part of Hinduism?

OK you understood part of it at the very least.. that is a very good start.. Not many have achieved that much either. the answer in brief is YES.

Read the rest carefully you might just perhaps stumble on the other pertinent points that I am raising.
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