'change of guard'...

[sprite]

Originally Posted by ashdoc

ab tu unglibaazi karne ke liye free......

hamesha se tha...koi nayi baat nahi hain

[aaaj75]

No, we don't need to change them at fix time. What I am just saying is if people are not happy then they can ask for change. But why to increase number of moderators. And one more thing the name suggested by sprite for moderator role some of them are very emotional and get personal very easily.

Originally Posted by swami

But whats the need to compulsory change moderators at a fix time ?

[swami]

Mereko ek hi subforum diya
And Pakkitai ko ekbhi nahi verybad

I think if you would have been the admin of this site the moderators would have changed every third day or max by a week

Apart from all the objections/opposing from me and other members I appreciate your planning
Bhai aaj office mei kaam nahi tha kya

Originally Posted by sprite

variety is the spice of life. Last time we brought about interesting changes on site and results were very positive.

In same spirit I am proposing a few changes to bring changes in administration of this site...

Before I begin...lemme first quote a very famous quotation that I read many years back reg 'leadership'..



as mentioned in some other thread. We have 6 moderators on this site. Over-staffed? Definitely! Moreover there is no equal representation from both sides of globe. Also some moderators have been carrying-out their duty for ages now. Nothing wrong with their administration skills but its time they need to 'create more leaders' under them!

I am proposing a new concept of moderation on Echarcha. A concept that will take moderation from generalists to so-called specialists.

Skeleton

1. Each sub-forum will have subject-matter specialists as moderators

2. total moderators will be 4 for each sub-forum- 2 from India and 2 from US. this will ensure 24-hr coverage of site for moderator control. ratio is adjustable.

3. Trinity- Amthaji, cooldudeji and yogiji (alphabet-wise) will be super-moderators. No, they wont have final say in anything and they can be moderators in sub-forums but they will be reserved for 'decision to ban members'

4. IP logs is an extremely sensitive issue and personally I would never like any moderator (even admin except in legal cases) to go through IP addresses of users here. So I would like IP address feature to be with admin only and once the moderators submit their request to trinity for banning members and once trinity agrees to the moderator's decision then Admin will take necessary action to ban ID at IP level or anything. This means that 'trinity' will be jury to decide on banning members and without recommendations from moderators of sub-forums they cannot exercise their powers. If personally they want to ban a member than their case should go to other two super-mods for review and consequently to admin to take action. Exception being advertisers and spammers.

5. Each sub-forum will have a sticky notification thread in which the moderator of that sub-forum will compulsorily write a short-report of changes he has carried out as part of his role. Since its a division-of-labor scenario, moderators of sub-forum wont find it a burden.

6. How the newly appointed moderators take up rules and how they work in symbiosis with their fellow moderators will decide any problems coming out from moderatorship.

I am proposing names of Echarchans who, I think, are fit to be future leaders. 2-2 moderator scenario may get changed if a suitable candidate is not found for a sub-forum from a region. U stands for US and I stands for India.

1. Echarcha Lounge

a. FRIDAY SPECIAL

U- amthaji, dirty,
I- aragorn, swami

b. LAL-MIRCHI

U- yogiji, desibaba, sunny, dirty (in case cooldude is absent for long)
I- cooldude

(since its a restricted sub-forum.cooldude's prolonged absence will not make much difference)

c. SOAPBOX

U- yogiji, amthaji, jai
I- aragorn

d. VIEW-COUNTERVIEW

U- jai, sunny, rakhiji
I- sprite. indian (to replace jai if he is active)

e. Hindi

U- chitrala, shakti
I- aragorn, raniraja

CURRENT AFFAIRS

a. taaza khabar, india/international politics, economy

U- amthaji, yogiji, sunny
I- Randheer, indian (to replace sunny if he is active)



b Defense

U- ramesh, babu
I- ashdoc, sprite

CULTURE

Entire forum moderators

U- rakhiji, chitrala, amthaji
I- aragorn

IMMIGRATION

Entire forum moderators

U- Ravi, amthaji, dirty
I- aragorn

LIFESTYLE

Bargain basement, life-abroad, jobs

U- amthaji, dirty, ravi
I- cooldude/aragorn

Health

U- sunny, jai
I- ashdoc, sprite

Relationships

U- yogiji, rakhiji, amthaji
I- cooldude

Science and technology

U- ravi, dhurandhar
I- aragorn, jana05

SPIRITUAL
entire forum

U- saneless, chitrala, dhurandhar/landya (both are not regular)
I- cooldude (to replace dhurru and landya if they are not regular), aragorn

SITE RELATED

U- amthaji, yogiji, sunny
I- cooldude

ENTERTAINMENT

a. Poetry, musik, films

U- chitrala, shakti
I- khaski_khopari, milanfanabhi

b. puzzles and sports

U- charchilla, chitrala, napolean
I- cooldude

c. audio/video and TV Radio

U- dirty, amthaji, jai
I- aragorn

d.gaming

U- chitrala, shakti
I- raniraja, aragorn

LITERARY

entire sub-forums

U- rakhiji, saneles, chitrala
I- aragorn

[sprite]

Originally Posted by swami

Mereko ek hi subforum diya
And Pakkitai ko ekbhi nahi verybad

I think if you would have been the admin of this site the moderators would have changed every third day or max by a week

Apart from all the objections/opposing from me and other members I appreciate your planning
Bhai aaj office mei kaam nahi tha kya

naaah..till thursday I am all free....

naah...I am not into changing moderators and stuff...it was a broad 'administrative reforms package'...see..like we have doctor on this site..he can take care of health forum ...someone working in defense systems can take up defense forum and stuff like that you know...also the IP stuff I mentioned...very important....anyways....

yaar maine khud ko technically ek hi diya...view-counterview is almost dead....I pitched hard for 'aragorn' to be moderator from India's side...

pakkitai....she is almost a non-existant name here....we need people to 'clean' things...pakki sab bade and classy log hain bhai...(kam aate-jaate hain)....they use vaccum-cleaner and stuff like that you know

[sprite]

Originally Posted by aaaj75

No, we don't need to change them at fix time. What I am just saying is if people are not happy then they can ask for change. But why to increase number of moderators. And one more thing the name suggested by sprite for moderator role some of them are very emotional and get personal very easily.

yeah i wanted to give them responsibility in their area of interest...anyways...its not that a group of people complain at a given point of time...its always individual cases that gets buried because other members are in comfort-zone...and this thread was not opened keeping dissatisfaction in mind....I thought...almost 10 years...letz bring some changes in moderatorship....there are lotsa forums ( I admit technical) where there are specific sub-forum moderators and no general moderators...

[landyaBhai]

Originally Posted by swami

Do you really feel these many people are required to moderate
Ours is a free speech site and so moderation is required only for spammers and sometimes during fights.

Yes there should be mods from India because there is only one mod during the day time,but again I many times see Chapai and Amthabhai online till 12.30pm and they are back by 6pm or so.Our Tantuji is a round-the-clock visitor to this site you cant predict when he will be online.So for a few hours the site is left unattended but I know many times our Cooldude bhai visits and clears up things.
So I dont think mods are that much required.The list you have made makes all the participants the police

I would once again say lets leave the mods as it is, if possible let the admin add a moderater from India to help Cooldude apart from that there is no need for moderators at present.
Apna site jitna simple hi utna hi acha lagta hi,with six moderators people are having so much issues with them imagine if we have more then how many complain will the admin and super moderators will have to handle.

Anyone supporting my view ?

So Sprite, you want 50 threads discussing 50 issues with 50 different moderators ... As I see it, we have only 10-15 regular members, most of whom would have to shoulder the responsibility of not only moderating but also giving explanations as to why something was moderated (Plus all the BS threads that start accusing something against someone) ...

I dont see the purpose, unless ofcourse we were like Anandtech.com that has 2000+ members logged in at any point in time ... Even there I am yet to see such a complicated arrangement of moderatorship ...

I have been not been regular and I hope somebody can take the responsibility of Spirituality forum. As it is I have lost the interest of discussing philosophical issues or povs ... It is just pointless because I usually find myself propounding something that I have read somewhere ...

Anyways, Cha, I recommend Sprite to take the responsibility of moderating the Spirituality forum ...

Rest all members can relax and be their usual self ...

[sprite]

Originally Posted by landyaBhai

So Sprite, you want 50 threads discussing 50 issues with 50 different moderators ... As I see it, we have only 10-15 regular members, most of whom would have to shoulder the responsibility of not only moderating but also giving explanations as to why something was moderated (Plus all the BS threads that start accusing something against someone) ...

I dont see the purpose, unless ofcourse we were like Anandtech.com that has 2000+ members logged in at any point in time ... Even there I am yet to see such a complicated arrangement of moderatorship ...

I have been not been regular and I hope somebody can take the responsibility of Spirituality forum. As it is I have lost the interest of discussing philosophical issues or povs ... It is just pointless because I usually find myself propounding something that I have read somewhere ...

Anyways, Cha, I recommend Sprite to take the responsibility of moderating the Spirituality forum ...

Rest all members can relax and be their usual self ...

don't take it to heart bro...that was just a casual suggestion. I dont want to moderate things that I dont understand at all...

[landyaBhai]

Originally Posted by sprite

don't take it to heart bro...that was just a casual suggestion. I dont want to moderate things that I dont understand at all...

heart ki baat nahi hai ... your suggestion is pretty detailed and expansive ... But it does not apply to a site like echarcha ... We do NOT have 2000+ members that need to be moderated upon. The list of members that you suggest are actually the only active members that visit this site regularly ...

Plus, I liked your suggestion that echarcha.com is left ram-bharose because we have only one moderator from India ... Hence I suggested your name ... if someother person would have found this issue and would have recommended a solution, I would have proposed his name for the responsibility ...

So are you ready for it?

[crazzy me]

Originally Posted by sprite

don't take it to heart bro...that was just a casual suggestion. I dont want to moderate things that I dont understand at all...

READ BETWEEN THE LINES

He wants to be a moderator but of a forum that is frequently visited. Maybe Soapbox!!

[Cooldude]

Originally Posted by landyaBhai

Anyways, Cha, I recommend Sprite to take the responsibility of moderating the Spirituality forum ...

Rest all members can relax and be their usual self ...

I recommend he takes over all aspects of the site. I'd be more than happy. What better way to honour the most active member on this site since its inception?

Vyomi, tu takover kar le yaar. Mujhe chootkara mil jayega.

[Charchila]

Originally Posted by sprite

hmmm...not many takers I guess...

project should be shelved

I second the motion

sprite, itna tension kyu leta hai?

[crazzy me]

Originally Posted by Charchila

I second the motion

sprite, itna tension kyu leta hai?

Now.. here everyone was talking about making him the moderator and u demand to shelve the project!

It's the day he was waiting for!! issi ke liye he took all the tension..

[Charchila]

Originally Posted by crazzy me

Now.. here everyone was talking about making him the moderator and u demand to shelve the project!

It's the day he was waiting for!! issi ke liye he took all the tension..

What's your other ID? I can't figure it out...

[dirty]

Sprite , I see you have proposed me in many places. Thanks but no thanks . I dont want to be a moderator.

your entusiasm is commendable and since you are taking about projects let me give u first lesson 'bout projects.

" If it's working it ai'nt broken "

Do not try to fix a system that is working.

No changes no new mods.

[Napolean]

sprite's enthusiasm is commendable.IMO,ec is like a tea shop - you don't want too many rules.There should be a few rules but they are already being enforced.A little dissent here and there is natural - it is still under the limit.
I agree with dirty.