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Old September 10th, 2015, 08:03 AM
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Re: Spectre of Eurabia---now close to reality ??

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I live in Germany.
In my opinion, this is a very complicated situation we are facing at the moment and it will probably create more and more problems in the future.
I think there are several aspects to be looked at.
On the one hand, I think that basically every refugee that tries to escape from a war zone should be accepted (mostly Syrians and Iraqis).
If only half of what I've read about Syria is true, it must be hell on earth.
On the other hand, roughly 40% of those coming to Germany right now are from the Balkans, which isn't a war zone anymore. They simply flee from poverty, unemployment and a really bad economic situation.
Does Germany have an obligation to accept them? Not really, IMO.

I'm not quite sure what Merkel is doing at the moment and if she has some kind of a plan, or a strategiy, I'm afraid not. She has proven herself to be rather passive when it comes to domestic politics.
They say 800,000 are coming this year. I've read an interview with a sociologist who said this could be the most demanding internal challenge for Germany since the end of WWII. I really hope Merkel will get off her backside.

I see a problem with the background and the education of many refugees / migrants.
E.g. those coming from the Balkans are in large part almost not educated at all in our western sense, i.e. many are illiterate in their own language, and the past has taught us that teaching these people a foreign language seems to be a very hard thing. That's why there are people who have been living in Germany for decades who speak only very basic German. Needless to say, they won't find a job in a highly industrialized country.

Unfortunately, the simple fact that the vast majority are muslims doesn't help either IMO.
Muslim students have been the least successful regarding school degrees, secondary and university education in the past. The typical school drop-out is male, of non-German origin and muslim. This has been clearly shown by numerous studies and schools have be warning for quite some time that many muslim students tend to get out of control regarding their democratic beliefs and moral values.
Plus, many of these people simply don't accept the western way of live and have created some kind of parallel society with its own values, social norms, family traditions and sense of justice. They, very openly, despise the German constitution and its laws and don't consider themselves part of the country and society they live in.
You never hear about these kind of problems created by other Europeans living here. Instead, and unfortunately, it's muslims from South-East Europe, Turkey, and the Middle East who are notoriously well-known for being "outside the law."

Regarding migrants from the Balkans, these are usually sent back in large numbers. However, it often takes up to 6 months as every case is checked individually, and many come back and try a second or even third time. To this day, Germany doesn't not have an Immigration Act, which means, everybody who knocks on the door is allowed to enter.

I'm basically fine with people coming here and accepting our western way of life (there are things to be criticized as nothing is perfect, but IMO this system has proven to be more than just ok). Adapt to the new life and the way things are done, and there won't be any major problems. Unfortunately, that has almost never happened in the past.

There is, however, one thing we, the west and in particular the most powerful country, should do; we should simply stop (*)(*)(*)(*)ing up the Middle East and basically every country that we don't like and think we have to change to our liking.
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The refugee crisis has splashed across headlines in recent weeks as European governments scramble to deal with thousands of people arriving on their borders. A dialogue has also been triggered in the global Jewish community about what it can do to help, particularly in light of its own history as refugees seeking asylum from anti-Semitism. The Jerusalem Post reached out to Jewish aid organizations around the world to find out what role they are playing to help refugees from Syria and the region.

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“Talking to many supporters in recent days, there is a great resonance around our own history. My own grandparents were refugees in Britain, and I think my story is similar to many in my generation and my parents’ generation,” Paul Anticoni, executive director of World Jewish Relief, told the Post. “We have an empathy of looking after the stranger, and I think there is a desire to assist, irrespective of the nationality of the individual.”

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saudi arabia offers to help germany with the immigrant crisis---by building mosques for them !!

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Washington (CNN)President Barack Obama has ordered his administration to "scale up" the number of Syrian refugees admitted to the United States in the coming year, directing his team to prepare for at least 10,000 in the next fiscal year, the White House said Thursday.
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Washington (CNN)President Barack Obama has ordered his administration to "scale up" the number of Syrian refugees admitted to the United States in the coming year, directing his team to prepare for at least 10,000 in the next fiscal year, the White House said Thursday.
Will Hillary refuse? Republicans will use this well.
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Re: Spectre of Eurabia---now close to reality ??

Islamic extremists in germany trying to recruit syrian refugees


http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worl...n-Germany.html

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1)Germany’s domestic security service fears the extremists may be trying to prevent refugees from integrating into German society.

2)There had been “clear proselytising” by Islamists warning refugees against Western values in the state, he said.
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Old September 11th, 2015, 10:59 AM
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So, these guys are escaping one ideology and then embrace the same ideology elsewhere.

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Study on “Muslims in Germany”: 94 percent is against integration, 24 percent of young Muslims inclined to violence, 51 percent think Islam will prevail on Earth

More than 85% declare themselves to be religious or very religious.

94% agreed with the statement that immigrants in Germany should keep the culture of their country of origin.

For a huge part of these Muslims (52,1%), religious instruction meant to attend a Koran school

The proportion of those with fundamentalist orientation is significantly increased among those who visited a Koran school (50.8%)

The longer the visit of a Koran school, the higher the rate of those with fundamentalist orientation.

43% agree with the statement: People who modernize Islam destroy the true doctrine.

47% agree with the statement: I believe that every good Muslim is obliged to convert unbelievers to Islam.

66% agree with the statement that Islam is the only true religion.

45% approval: Only Islam is able to solve the problems of our time.

51% approval: In the long run, Islam will prevail in the whole world.
Concerning devaluation of Western societies:

56% approval: In Germany you can clearly see that the Christian religions are not able to ensure morality.

71% approval: The sexual morals of Western societies are totally depraved.

47% approval: To comply with the commandments of my religion is more important to me than democracy.

34% support the death penalty.

48% approval: Seeing the many criminals in this country, it is obvious where democracy leads to.

38% approval: The threat towards Islam posed by the Western world justifies that Muslims defend themselves by violence.

44% approval: Muslims who die in the armed struggle for their faith attain paradise. …

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If you can't beat them, join them. Europe is history.

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Be optimistic. There were also pix after 9/11 showing Statue of liberty in a burkha. Still some time to go to Ibiza.


this one from 21 years back

Aishwarya Rai is adjusting her hejab. The Arabic headgear hides her hair while a loose-fitting salwar-kameez conceals her Miss India curves. She and another similarly dressed model are playing affectionate sisters discussing the benefits of a complexion cream. But with a difference.
They are speaking in Arabic. A little distance from the purple-walled bedroom set put up in Bombay's Film City, sits Lee Smith, creative director of Lintas Gulf, and Hamed Mahmoud, an Arabic language director, especially imported from Egypt for the shoot.
Both are looking hard at a video monitor. The problem, it seems, are Rai's eyes - the smoky green wonders are a shade too wonderful. "Don't focus in too close," says Smith to the directors, "her eyes might be too sensuous for the Saudi censors."
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