Tamizh, a part of India?

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Had a fierce discussion with a Tamizh colleague today.. he says India is not a country, forced to be country 70 years back in 1947. Culture, language, clothing, etc everything is different. We Tamizh are not getting our due, all our money being passed on by national parties to waste states like UP, Bihar, etc.

I told him anti-Hindi and all is a propaganda .. to which he got aggressive, that I'm an educated guy with masters from USA, don't think that I have been brainwashed.

So, my question - Is India a country? Do we have common fabric to say all parts of India constitute India?

[Ramesh Suresh]

I thought Tamil secessionism was always a fiction. Which year he left India?

[sarv_shaktimaan]

He also stated example of Shiv Sena not accepting outsiders in their state, hitting and chasing people from their own country. He's like India is not a country, just a group of unrelated states, like a mini-Europe. Why is Hindi and north India culture being thrust upon us?

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Originally Posted by Ramesh Suresh

I thought Tamil secessionism was always a fiction. Which year he left India?

I find more and more Tamils having such thoughts.. they don't feel connection to India, their hatred to Hindi is intense.

I'm like why you all have Hindi names then? Rajesh, Suraj, Bharath?

[Ramesh Suresh]

Mystery solved. ISI is beating our RAW. ISI is infiltrating India and brainwashing our people and we or our intelligence agencies are unable to do anything about it.

[sgars]

Originally Posted by sarv_shaktimaan

He also stated example of Shiv Sena not accepting outsiders in their state, hitting and chasing people from their own country. He's like India is not a country, just a group of unrelated states, like a mini-Europe. Why is Hindi and north India culture being thrust upon us?

In the 60s Balasaheb threatened to drown 'Madrasis in Sambar'. And in 80s a Madrasi was the Don of Bombay (now Mumbai)

BTW, one of my Kannada beer friends used to suggest that whole of SOuth India should split and arrive at some deal with North to protect it against Pakistan.

[sgars]

Originally Posted by Ramesh Suresh

ISI is infiltrating India and brainwashing our people

Like You????

[Aashika]

Originally Posted by sarv_shaktimaan

I find more and more Tamils having such thoughts.. they don't feel connection to India, their hatred to Hindi is intense.

I'm like why you all have Hindi names then? Rajesh, Suraj, Bharath?

The way I see it, the feeling is mutual. I have seen people from North India to feel superior over South Indians. It could be because of the language barrier?
Don’t know. You relate to a place based on food and language. If they are completely off, you don’t have anything to relate to...no?

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Originally Posted by Aashika

The way I see it, the feeling is mutual. I have seen people from North India to feel superior over South Indians. It could be because of the language barrier?
Don’t know. You relate to a place based on food and language. If they are completely off, you don’t have anything to relate to...no?

Is Hindi being imposed on Tamils? It all started with GST not fetching dnough to Tamil Nadu, somehow Tamilians think they are paying 20 Rupees to Indian govt and getting back only Rs. 4 per Tamilian. I don’t buy that argument.

[sgars]

Originally Posted by sarv_shaktimaan

So, my question - Is India a country? Do we have common fabric to say all parts of India constitute India?

Yes. It was defined by Adi Shankaracharya (vaguely remember this in the Sanskrit movie) as stretching From Gandhar (Afgahnistan) to Kamrup (Assam) to Kanyakumari. Adi Shankaracharya himself was from Kerala and visited Kashmir several times.

Can that TT debate with an Arab or a Chinese the way he did with you?
That is the common thread.

Even Germany was disunited before Bismark united it. It was there in CBSE 10th class. Same was done by Gardibaldi on Italy.

[sgars]

Nevermind my previous preachy sounding post. There is another common thread. Cricket.
My cybercoolie neighbor keeps discussing it with others. He is a Tamizh and others are Gujjus.

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Originally Posted by sgars

Yes. It was defined by Adi Shankaracharya (vaguely remember this in the Sanskrit movie) as stretching From Gandhar (Afgahnistan) to Kamrup (Assam) to Kanyakumari. Adi Shankaracharya himself was from Kerala and visited Kashmir several times.

Can that TT debate with an Arab or a Chinese the way he did with you?
That is the common thread.

Even Germany was disunited before Bismark united it. It was there in CBSE 10th class. Same was done by Gardibaldi on Italy.

It’s all conditioning from childhood, then growing up they listened to Karunanidhi who named his son as Stalin.. commie thinking was all around like The Hindu paper, and movies had same themes.. i know where he’s coming from. Education is of no use with a small brain like that.

[sarv_shaktimaan]

Sissy tamizh anyway didn’t do anything during freedom struggle .. fuckin half converted to christianity .. other half were busy folding their lungis.

[Ramesh Suresh]

Originally Posted by sarv_shaktimaan

Sissy tamizh anyway didn’t do anything during freedom struggle .. fuckin half converted to christianity .. other half were busy folding their lungis.

Is the supposed Bengali role in freedom struggle confirmed by gutsy behaviour in actual life? If it is so, then the history we are taught is authentic. How do Bengalis fare when there is a clash in US?

[Sane Less]

Here's my 2-paise. India should be be a single country but of sovereign independent states. The moment this is over-ridden (like the hindi-language imposition over the entire country) there is an imbalance created and individual states get threatened. Question to answer is, does one want a single-language speaking, single-food eating, single-style dressing country or does one want a well-integrated, regionally-independent country Answer this... and you will get your answer about various arguments.

Edit: Note, there is a similarity to the religion of peace here... which wants a uniform world all around.. just one language, one dress, one food everywhere. Just see where that is getting many of the countries