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Old August 14th, 2004, 09:10 AM
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What do u guys think? Does India deserve at least some medals in these Olympics?

Weightlifting?
Shooting?
Hockey?
Badminton?
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Sachin earned 10 crores just from advertising....thats the total budget India had for the entire olympics contigent.....cricket is overrated.....other sports are ignored tremendously....how will we ever be any good at the Olympics? See the difference in US...just an example, local sports are huge, SuperBowl, NBA Finals, who doesn't watch those...even apun log dekhtein hain, but kabhi Delhi Doordarshan par yah kahi aur koi care karta hain for the Badminton Championships, Hockey, etc etc....nopes is too dull here...
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Old August 14th, 2004, 11:31 AM
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The answer definitely lies in encouraging local comepition. If you get sponspors behind local sports, there will more money to build a better infrastructure for sports development. As long as that money doesn't end up in some politicans's pockets ofcourse.
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Sachin earned 10 crores just from advertising....thats the total budget India had for the entire olympics contigent.....cricket is overrated.....other sports are ignored tremendously....how will we ever be any good at the Olympics? See the difference in US...just an example, local sports are huge, SuperBowl, NBA Finals, who doesn't watch those...even apun log dekhtein hain, but kabhi Delhi Doordarshan par yah kahi aur koi care karta hain for the Badminton Championships, Hockey, etc etc....nopes is too dull here...
Then don't watch cricket Who stopped anyone else from becoming Sachins in their sports? He is talented and popular so companies are after him... what's wrong with that? You think its wise for India to spend more money on Olympics without world class athletes? Cricket is not overrated, people love Cricket that's why it is more popular... that's all.

USA has the money dude... that's why local sports are "huge." Apun log dekhte hai because we have to pay $200 to watch a freakin' cricket series If they start showing cricket for free like SuperBowl and NBA Finals, I wouldn't watch it.
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What do u guys think? Does India deserve at least some medals in these Olympics?

Weightlifting?
Shooting?
Hockey?
Badminton?
Swimming, Tennis, Long Jump too
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Then don't watch cricket Who stopped anyone else from becoming Sachins in their sports? He is talented and popular so companies are after him... what's wrong with that? You think its wise for India to spend more money on Olympics without world class athletes? Cricket is not overrated, people love Cricket that's why it is more popular... that's all.

USA has the money dude... that's why local sports are "huge." Apun log dekhte hai because we have to pay $200 to watch a freakin' cricket series If they start showing cricket for free like SuperBowl and NBA Finals, I wouldn't watch it.

I think Dhanraj Pillai is equally talented, in a different sport ofcourse, hockey! Its not important how fat a pay check is given for spending at Olympics..its the training! Picking up young talents which may go by unnoticed otherwise. Thats where the govt needs to invest more and wisely to get better results at olympics...but then the politics and stuff comes in to play...money set aside for these things just disappears and is justified in books n all...which is pretty sad

But the very fact that since so much commercial and government attention goes towards cricket that it makes the other sports sound like little leagues. I agree that one has to pay a hefty amount in US but in India, one can watch the NBA Finals, Cricket matches, everything at Rs.200/month...cable cost , still other sports go by unnoticed...I don't personally watch them myself coz there isn't much awareness being spread abt them except maybe on delhi doordarshan and dd sports??
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Meda. Huh? Shooting medal chance thaa.. love day lag gayi udhar..

Why does other sports not make the cut? I will tell you. I play badminton.. I was playing with national level players (I was 13 then.. so we were playing the under 16 level) I even was beating them but I never got selected. Why? Couple of reasons. I did not have money to pay bribes to the selectors. I did not have political clout. Sponsors? Nope.. we even had to buy our own shuttles and arrow (which was the best I could afford was 8 rs a piece and I am talking 1980/81, and one match/practice sesssion, I would need atleast half a box) My dad, poor guy, cut corners to provide me with those shuttles and we were by no means "poor". Real matches need up to 2 boxes (sometime deliberately we would ask for new ones so we can take the old ones home to use for our practice sessions cos the tournys, the organizers paid for shuttle and they were top quality).

Go figure.. you want medals? Atleast buy your budding talents the equipment/resources for the practice sessions.. Else keep dreaming..


Has anyone ever bothered to watch a badminton match? Its fast and very exciting.. I bet gand se angaar nikal jaayegi if you play 3 sets.. its very vigorous and fast paced much faster than tennis.. so is Table tennis but badminton is very vigorous.. cricket is nothing compared to that.
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Old August 14th, 2004, 10:01 PM
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Red face Forgot Tennis..!

Well,

Tennis is one sport in which I feel we have the slightest of chances of winning a medal! Anyways, Leander Paes and Mahesh Bhupati haven't played together since a long time.... so, don't know how well they understand each other now!

I completely agree, Cricket is hugely overrated in India. The publicity and the appreciation that our cricketers get is way too much for what they perform. I mean, we haven't won a single tournament since the Natwest series. We reach the finals and loose! Cricket is never short of sponsors. If a contract of a company is over, there are hundreds of others lining up to sponsor the team. Whereas, Hockey - OUR NATIONAL GAME didn't have a sponsor till the last Commonwealth games! Pittiable huh? All the hockey players do a job and play hockey as a part time OCCUPATION, whereas cricketers can play poor cricket to earn money!

The amount of money that goes into building the infrastructure for the atheletes is far too less as compared to other countries! I mean, Americans, Australians et al, are thorough professionals! They have the right kind of coaching and Dedication that goes into playing a sport for their COUNTRY! Tell me, why will our atheletes play well, toil HARD, if the maximum they are going to get is - Congrats... u played well?

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No nation "deserves" a medal. The winning athletes earn them.

Dude..... by India.... I meant the atheletes..! This is called generalization..!


And "deserve" - I used that word for the amount of hard work that our atheletes put in ti win it..!
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In india, we are not encouraged by our own parents after a particular stage. I mean when it comes tro choosing between studies and sports we obsviously know what the choice is. Whilst here ppl just dropout of school to take up sports as their career that is again cos out here there is a secure future in sports careers too.

Every sport where parents have encouraged their kids atleast some progress has been made.Vishwanathan anand, narain karthikeyan, aparna just to name a few. These ppl had the same diificulties that others had but first you should have that encouragement at home to go past the first level.


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In india, we are not encouraged by our own parents after a particular stage. I mean when it comes tro choosing between studies and sports we obsviously know what the choice is. Whilst here ppl just dropout of school to take up sports as their career that is again cos out here there is a secure future in sports careers too.

Every sport where parents have encouraged their kids atleast some progress has been made.Vishwanathan anand, narain karthikeyan, aparna just to name a few. These ppl had the same diificulties that others had but first you should have that encouragement at home to go past the first level.


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Very good point Anamika The social pressures in India, "sports won't get you a career, u gotta be a doc, or engineer or lawyer or bla bla" lot of peer pressure as well...sports can hardly be pursued as a career for those who would want to live a comfortable life, I guess its more about ur passion for things...
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Very good point Anamika The social pressures in India, "sports won't get you a career, u gotta be a doc, or engineer or lawyer or bla bla" lot of peer pressure as well...sports can hardly be pursued as a career for those who would want to live a comfortable life, I guess its more about ur passion for things...
there is definitely some truth in this but added to this is the corruption that gp mentioned. it all boils down to the fact that there is no incentive for the poor to get into sports- and it is from the poor that we need to get the atheletes. look what china has achieved in such a short time. with our population we should be looking to emulate them. but the funding has to come from the government or from the large corporations. otherwise we will remain where we are.
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Medal Model
Economists predict who will get the gold in Athens.
By Daniel Gross
Posted Thursday, Aug. 12, 2004, at 2:45 PM PT


So far, most of the economic discussion surrounding the Olympics has centered on how much of a jolt the games will deliver to Greece's economy and the size of swimmer Michael Phelps' endorsement contracts.

But a team of number crunchers at PriceWaterhouseCoopers has been feeding data on countries' economies, populations, political histories, and past performances into a model that aims to provide a benchmark for expected medal hauls. The London-based crew asserts that the model "is able to explain nearly 90% of the variation in medal shares across countries in recent Olympic Games."

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The second is the Patrick Buchanan explanation: Lazy white FirstWorlders are about to be overwhelmed and outrun by hungrier, darker Third World residents. The model projects such big losses for established Olympic powers—and such big gains for nobodies—largely because of the influence of GDP growth. In the past four years, France and Germany have had comparatively little growth compared with, say, India and Mexico. So, France and Germany are projected to lose medals, while India's total is expected to rise from one to 10 (!) and our neighbor to the south could win 11 medals, up from six in 2000. We may think the rich are getting richer. But the poor are getting richer at a more rapid pace. "What's tended to happen is that the developing economies' share of the global economy is increasing over time, and perhaps these countries are becoming keener on participation in the Olympics," said Hawksworth.

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