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Old May 24th, 2013, 10:13 PM
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Re: Do you believe in "all accounts gets settled here in this life time?"

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Some bastards get to live a peaceful and fullfilling life and those they tormented suffer till death.

Such bastard people are special and favorite ones of the Devil one might think. Whatever it is, there are some madarchoads I would want to suffer all the shit they have caused me, but the so called 'Man in the Sky' is doing nothing about it.
That's right... Sadly, its bad to be at a wrong place at the wrong time....
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Some bastards get to live a peaceful and fullfilling life and those they tormented suffer till death.

Such bastard people are special and favorite ones of the Devil one might think. Whatever it is, there are some madarchoads I would want to suffer all the shit they have caused me, but the so called 'Man in the Sky' is doing nothing about it.
earlier i too used to believe that all accounts get settled here in this life. but its not true. generations of tormentors do not suffer here while those of tormented do.
so clearly not all paap/punya gets settled here. the sum of here and hereafter evens out.
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Old May 25th, 2013, 12:28 AM
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Some bastards get to live a peaceful and fullfilling life and those they tormented suffer till death.

Such bastard people are special and favorite ones of the Devil one might think. Whatever it is, there are some madarchoads I would want to suffer all the shit they have caused me, but the so called 'Man in the Sky' is doing nothing about it.
So that means many things are not in our hands and we do not have control over these... so someone else up would be controlling all these.

Peaceful & Fulfilling life :- You are looking it from your own point of view. May be those devils having miserable life in their own mindset, their family... they are suffering in many other ways which we dont see...

May be they are still living wonderful life could be because they had gathered enough credit in past lives and now accumulating bad ones.

There are many 'may be'.

What goes around, comes around.
For every action, there is a reaction. You cant deny this rule simply because you dont believe this.

We dont have capacity to decide what result that devil should get & when.

You seem to be so annoyed at few persons. But what can you do. Let their destiny show them result of their own karmas. You got suffered from them, could be you got your past karmas settled. You never know...

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When you toss a coin and head comes up, now whose fault is that...?? Chance...!! Do you eat non-veg...?? If yes, then in my eyes you are complicit in painful death of a hapless animal... That, according to me, is bad karma... But the majority world-view doesnt think so... For majority, this is just a normal case scenario... Hence, there's no absolute good or bad karma... Hence, their effects can have no bearing in the next birth...!!

Nobody knows what is good and what is bad. So we shouldnt classify it.

So if everything is by chance..

you are happy by chance...
you got suffered, that is also by chance.. Why complain ?
There are corruption by chance.. why we should complain ?

Then why is EC pai cribbing over someone hurting him. It happend by chance.

That way life is so stressfree. I can do anything in the name of chance.
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Nobody knows what is good and what is bad. So we shouldnt classify it.

So if everything is by chance..

you are happy by chance...
you got suffered, that is also by chance.. Why complain ?
There are corruption by chance.. why we should complain ?

Then why is EC pai cribbing over someone hurting him. It happend by chance.

That way life is so stressfree. I can do anything in the name of chance.
Well, I am the last person to complain about corruption...!! Not even the last...!!

EC's not complaining about whatever happened... He's just wondering and perhaps has realized that its all a matter of chance and there's nothing like karma effect that gets carried forward or backwards... Cos if that was the case then those he described as despicable wouldnt have reaped glorious end results, which he thinks they did...!!

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Nobody knows what is good and what is bad. So we shouldnt classify it.

So if everything is by chance..

you are happy by chance...
you got suffered, that is also by chance.. Why complain ?
There are corruption by chance.. why we should complain ?

Then why is EC pai cribbing over someone hurting him. It happend by chance.

That way life is so stressfree. I can do anything in the name of chance.
Yes, you can continue to do anything in the name of chance...!! That's what most Indians do...!! Right from illegally occupying footpaths to match fixing in IPL or even more...!! Infact, we Indians, are the most believers in the word Chance and mis-using it to our advantage...!! So if you'll join the league, you wont be doing anything abominable... ...!!
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It never occurred to me that good karma also gets passed on to next birth. If its Vishnu who decides what my fate is, I wonder why EVERYONE is not trying harder to be in his good books.
I really dont think anything is getting passed on. Just like a butterfly effect, everything starts and ends with us but we get influenced by other peoples karma too along with ours. In this very lifetime.
Not everyone believes in the existence of the villain, Vishnu

It is all a matter of belief. You can believe one of the following. I say believe because you don't have proof of one or the other either way.

1) There is no God, no reincarnation (atheism)

2) There is no God, but reincarnation and Karma principle (buddhism and Taoism)

3) There is perhaps a God, or perhaps none, and perhaps reincarnation, but definitely Karma principle (jainism)

4) There is one God, and no reincarnation (mainstream Judaism, Christianity, Islam)

5) There is one God, and reincarnation (some subsects of Judeo-Christianism, Sikhism, Kabirism, Zoroasterism/Parsi)

6) There are many avatars of one supreme God, and reincarnation, with Karma principle (Hinduism and sub-sects therein)

7) There is no proof of God, but there is some mysterious supreme force regulating the universe... (Agnosticism as practiced by scientists who don't have the balls to be atheist, but feel stifled by religion)

The rule of wily Vishnu's massive inter-universal game is as follows.

1) Everybody who is born anywhere in any form must play this game

2) In so far there is credit (good karma) or debit (bad karma) remaining, or interest (attachment or expectations) in the game, the life form must participate sooner or later.

3) If the player plays/participates in the game without interest (see above), the player is forced to exit the game after his credit is used and debit repaid. The forced exit may take the form of slaughter at the hands of wily Vishnu and his minions, or as a gifts/praises lavished upon by wily Vishnu and his minions. It really does not matter, as Vishnu does not want his game to end.

4) Brahma, Vishnu and Mahesh are one and the same person (in triple role if you will) called God/Tao/Allah whatever...
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There is no authenticity of all those mythological stories and characters. Believing in them would be like believing in all childhood fantansy stories. It is not about all those devi devtas, it is about one supreme force which driving the whole universe and its rules.

Do you believe there is one supreme force which is responsible for creation, administration and destruction of this world ? Only because you cant understand this with your scientific and logical mind, you claim your right to deny its existance. Even physician says this whole universe is driven by unknown forces/force.

Do you think you can do and say anything (which according to your supreme mind is justified) and nothing will happen in return just because you dont believe in Karma's theory ? or it is all happening by 'chance' ?

Getting advice from other person is not bad. We are always learning from our surrounding. It is not about learning How to live life. It is about we are never complete and there is always scope of betterment. It is because our mind is a great deceptor and it could keep us trapped for decades, for whole life and even beyond births. What IT said right 10 years back could now turned out to be wrong now and again IT will come out & label it Right again after 10 years. What is right in your mind could be wrong in someone else's mind. So where do you stand actualy ? Right or wrong ?

It is always better to keep your mind open to 'consider' others' views rather than abusing their mothers and sisters. Even that will come back to you.
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There is no authenticity of all those mythological stories and characters. Believing in them would be like believing in all childhood fantansy stories. It is not about all those devi devtas, it is about one supreme force which driving the whole universe and its rules.

Do you believe there is one supreme force which is responsible for creation, administration and destruction of this world ? Only because you cant understand this with your scientific and logical mind, you claim your right to deny its existance. Even physician says this whole universe is driven by unknown forces/force.

Do you think you can do and say anything (which according to your supreme mind is justified) and nothing will happen in return just because you dont believe in Karma's theory ? or it is all happening by 'chance' ?

Getting advice from other person is not bad. We are always learning from our surrounding. It is not about learning How to live life. It is about we are never complete and there is always scope of betterment. It is because our mind is a great deceptor and it could keep us trapped for decades, for whole life and even beyond births. What IT said right 10 years back could now turned out to be wrong now and again IT will come out & label it Right again after 10 years. What is right in your mind could be wrong in someone else's mind. So where do you stand actualy ? Right or wrong ?

It is always better to keep your mind open to 'consider' others' views rather than abusing their mothers and sisters. Even that will come back to you.
what is the solution if some experiences are BAD enough to make one think taking the extreme step?
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One must remember that the quality of Karma transcends above the entity known as the Human Being.
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It is always better to keep your mind open to 'consider' others' views rather than abusing their mothers and sisters. Even that will come back to you.
I was going to answer you with some honest words. This last para derailed my train of thoughts. Indian men like you shock me. You don't know me. I am a stranger to you. Will you ever invite me to your home to enjoy your honorable mother or innocent sister? Will you? No, you won't. So what is it about cyber world that you do not hesitate to invite me to abuse your respectable mother and innocent sister?

With that last paragraph ... you did mean to invite me to reciprocate in kind? You did ... didn't you? Thanks for the invitation but I refuse to treat your mother and sister dishonorably. Sorry. Sorry to disappoint you. Why? Why do you do that?

I suggest you edit your post and I will this one here?




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Some bastards get to live a peaceful and fullfilling life and those they tormented suffer till death.

Such bastard people are special and favorite ones of the Devil one might think. Whatever it is, there are some madarchoads I would want to suffer all the shit they have caused me, but the so called 'Man in the Sky' is doing nothing about it.
If harm has been done ... following is hardly of any consolation. But still if it makes you feel slightly better ...

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Psychopaths are no more than 4% of the population. However, the damage and misery they inflict on others is enormous so they can seem to be everywhere. They are not. Most people you will meet will mean you no harm, nor have any desire to exploit, manipulate, hurt, damage or use you. Keep this in mind.

However, people who have been genuinely affected by a psychopath who passed through their lives know precisely what they were dealing with after a period inner reflection/revelation/discoveries in the aftermath and they have no doubts they were dealing with a psychopath all the timeóbut never came fully to terms with it until it was too late.
These sincere victims need support and understanding and not to be judged or told to "get over it!" or worse still "you bought this all on yourself..."

Life is really good once we transcend the Psychopathic Control Grid. It is almost like being reborn a wiser, mature and a more complete person. What happens to the psychopath who damaged you is no concern of yours. They are history and never coming back.



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I was going to answer you with some honest words. This last para derailed my train of thoughts. Indian men like you shock me. You don't know me. I am a stranger to you. Will you ever invite me to your home to enjoy your honorable mother or innocent sister? Will you? No, you won't. So what is it about cyber world that you do not hesitate to invite me to abuse your respectable mother and innocent sister?

With that last paragraph ... you did mean to invite me to reciprocate in kind? You did ... didn't you? Thanks for the invitation but I refuse to treat your mother and sister dishonorably. Sorry. Sorry to disappoint you. Why? Why do you do that?

I suggest you edit your post and I will this one here?
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It is always better to keep your mind open to 'consider' others' views rather than abusing their mothers and sisters. Even that will come back to you.
Here in these lines, "Their" was meant not for me or us. It was meant for people whom you abused in following quote.

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I bet you still go sit on floor to listen to some moherfocker (on pedestal) lecture you on how to live your life ... you do, don't you? You do.
Even today, our elder lacture us on how to live life, do things this way or that way. So this kind of prompted me to write that line. But it was all in good gesture. And that made you stoop so down all the way to reach my mother and sisters.

You are unable to bear just one honest 'cyber' comment & you are proudly ready to label others as suckers etc etc. Leave aside rest of the things.

Sorry, I refuse to edit my post. You please keep continuing with your rant.

Do you, Do You ?

Noooo ????????? Why not ??? Cant you ???

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Well, all accounts are certainly getting settled in this thread.
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It is possible that there are creatures greater than us in the scheme of things. Our lives might be nothing more than a grand play enacted by their creatures in their own scheme of reality.
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